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[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 273 points 1 month ago (16 children)

Nd let's not forget that there was an economic benefit too that conservatives will ignore. People were able to get out of their house and go spend money thanks to the people who shoveled. People went to work and kept things going.

Conservatives frequently think these things bring no value, and will absolutely mock it on fox news saying "so people can wALk". But yes, the benefit is they can go keep the economy going.

Its why I don't understand why they are against things like high speed rail. Its an investment. Every time we connect people together trade happens, and economies grow. Its kind of how that works.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 74 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I’d love to know what the economic ROI is on paying people that much to clear snow. I bet it’s huge in NYC.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 87 points 1 month ago (1 children)

In a city where the vast majority either walk to work, or walk to the subway to get to work, I can't imagine. We clear roadways in the midwest and no one bats an eye, but clearing sidewalks in a walkable city is crazy to them.

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[–] scutiger@lemmy.world 37 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Let's be real, it's not that much money. I mean $30/hr is nice, but that's only when there's enough snow to be worth cleaning, and only half the year. It's not like a full-time position paid $30/hr.

So the investment is relatively small, and the benefit is relatively large.

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[–] Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca 44 points 1 month ago

Plus all the money paid out in wages went back into the local economy for rent, food, etc. It didn't go to offshore tax havens.

[–] Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world 34 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Conservative don't want to make things better for everyone, they want to make things better for themselves.

This makes them short sighted and only see the money right in front of their face, which in this case, is going into the pockets of people shovelling snow.

They don't see the benefit because it doesn't benefit them immediately.

But you can bet your life that they will reap the benefit as they pull themselves up by other peoples bootstraps.

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[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 27 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

The issue with public transport is that it's an investment that will pay off in years, not next quarter, or even next election. They don't give a fuck if it doesn't benefit them specifically, and right now.

Also, it evens the field. They don't want this because the bottom having more means they are less above them.

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[–] Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 1 month ago

Because everything's a get rich quick scheme or a scam, investments to them are rigging bets on polymarket

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Let’s not forget also, that when you pay people directly they go and spend that money. Businesses cannot have customers if the customers don’t have money. The reason why money is kept so tight is a) blind greed and b) because then people can only afford to patronize Walmart or Amazon, not their local stores.

Conservatives like to act as though raising minimum wage will kill local businesses despite the fact that that is not how that works.

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[–] AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

Clean energy is another example of an investment which obviously saves money in the long term and also improves the economy in the short term. Conservatives don't care about that because they don't care about the long term, and even if they do, they want all of these issues to still be around so they have something to yell about (since apparently voters only care about something being a problem and can't tell if the 'solution' will actually make things better or worse). There's also a lot of lobbyist money that they can keep on getting by preventing these sorts of investments. If we stopped relying on a couple of oil companies, then those oil companies wouldn't be able to give the politicians money.

[–] brygphilomena@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 month ago

Besides that, people are struggling to make ends meet. If the city pays them to do something, that money isn't just staying in saving accounts. They are going to spend it, likely very very soon.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 12 points 1 month ago

And it's not a new concept either, it has been proven many times and there's plenty of case studies. High speed rail too, all over Europe, China and Japan. But when your job has been given to you by an oil company donation...

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[–] passepartout@feddit.org 234 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Money can be exchanged for goods and services!

[–] NewDark@lemmings.world 57 points 1 month ago

Tell that to conservatives that say to cut taxes and social services.

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 51 points 1 month ago

No! Money is only supposed to be hoarded, so you can watch red line go up.

I thought you were supposed to give it to billionaires for safekeeping?

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 17 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Homer is smarter than all conservatives combined

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[–] BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz 134 points 1 month ago

How DARE he use MY Tax Money to make MY Life EASIER! EVERYONE knows Tax Money is meant for RICH PEOPLE and NO ONE else!

[–] J92@lemmy.world 128 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Its fucking painful that its headline worthy that taxes were used for the betterment of the places they were paid in.

[–] FatVegan@leminal.space 43 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They aren't even used to bomb brown people overseas 😡

[–] Mrkawfee@feddit.uk 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Or given to Netanyahu to bomb brown people.

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Maybe.

Taxes rarely get any good propaganda, though. I don't mind news stories like this being plastered everwhere if it means people will start believing their government can do something for them again.

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[–] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 93 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (8 children)

Ok, but all that money wasted on streets could have gone to a private pocket of a nepo tech startup promising AI billboards that would feed ads to ppl & the city would subsidise to "promote innovation".

/s

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 34 points 1 month ago (2 children)

If they just built some more datacentres the snow would naturally melt form the climate change.

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[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 92 points 1 month ago

Wait wait wait. You're telling me that if you offer fair compensation for labor the people performing that labor will do the job they're hired for?

Son of a gun. Who'd of thunk it!

[–] FilthyShrooms@lemmy.world 44 points 1 month ago (2 children)

$30/hr, $45/hr overtime

Yea... that's how time & a half works...

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 55 points 1 month ago

A lot of seasonal workers are exempt from earning overtime.

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 21 points 1 month ago (7 children)

And $30/hr doesn't even seem all that high for a high-cost-of-living area like NY.

[–] Goodeye8@piefed.social 30 points 1 month ago (3 children)

And yet it's almost double the minimum wage.

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[–] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 44 points 1 month ago (2 children)

And some of that money will come back and the cycle will continue.

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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 42 points 1 month ago

This is great, but I love that he gave the school kids of New York an actual, honest-to-god snow day. No remote class, no logging on.

[–] DylanMc6@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And some people said that "socialism doesn't have any incentives"

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[–] maxxadrenaline@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Roosevelt did the same thing too when soldiers came back from the war and couldn’t find work and their government Bonds were expired. He designed a lot of unification projects like bridges and all sorts of projects while those bridges are beautiful and they’re still standing today showing that we don’t have to do things cheap and we can still help people that’s grades are under that our governments to do that invest in their people.

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[–] nao@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 month ago (2 children)

What did they mock him for? Too expensive? Won't work?

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 1 month ago

Probably both, yeah. They're not exactly known for being objectively right about things..

[–] rothaine@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 month ago

How will he ever make a profit?!

[–] LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

I saw so many people commenting on social media how they have never seen the sidewalks and streets cleared that fast in New York. He is winning people over quickly.

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