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A friend and I are arguing over ghosts.

I think it’s akin to astrology, homeopathy and palm reading. He says there’s “convincing “ evidence for its existence. He also took up company time to make a meme to illustrate our relative positions. (See image)

(To be fair, I’m also on the clock right now)

What do you think?

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[–] doug@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

It’s fun to think up thought experiments that explain away the reasons we can’t prove they exist.

Time isn’t linear, we’re just limited to experiencing it that way while we’re alive.

After we die, we experience time differently; in an impossible-to-describe way, but is akin to a book with limitless pages. Your existence is a bookmark in this book, and dying makes you lose your place.

It is possible to re-find your place, but with unfathomable access to unfathomable histories and futures, there is a near-infinite choice of other events and timelines for a ghost to visit and observe and experience.

Coupled with that, there are laws— some sort of physical laws, not arbitrary— to visiting the pages of this book, in that they can only be done in areas that do not cause pages before or after to change dramatically. A ghost is a spec of ink on the page; it cannot write letters, words, or sentences. If anything like this were ever done, we would never know as our minds would simply accept the memory as fact without knowing, or delete the memory of a ghost the way we space out driving on a highway or having to look at our watch a second time.

Lastly, our senses are all on varying spectrums; some of us able to see, hear, smell, experience things others cannot. One of our senses is a sense of time. Some people’s sense of time operates on a scope of a wider caliber than others, experiencing things others cannot, which is why some of us may have experienced ghosts while others haven’t.

edit: I guess it needs clarification based on the downvotes, I don’t believe any of what I just wrote (except the true bits like time not being linear & sense scopes). I don’t believe in ghosts/have never seen one, but I try to stay open-minded for friends who might disagree.

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[–] ThePyroPython@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Do I believe in ghosts in the literal sense of an actual spirit hanging around in the physical world haunting places and people? No.

Do I think it's fascinating to see how the idea of "ghosts" are used in a cultural sense usually representing an individual or group's desires, thoughts, feelings, etc. after they've passed on and usually storytelling around respecting their wishes or finishing what they started so they can finally be "at peace"? Yes.

I also find it fascinating in a tragic way how people who've gone through extreme grief and loss can cling to the idea of ghosts, particularly of loved ones. Perhaps the pyschie doesn't want to let go of that person so much that it can manifest as audio-visual hallucinations that feel incredibly real to the individual.

After all, we all perceive the world through our brain: it is the filter for everything.

I've experienced some strange stuff personally, but I don't think I've seen an actual ghost. I remember having a dream about a close relative the night they died suddenly and we all found out in the morning. But that could be my memory post-rationalising something.

I've seen a milk bottle fly out from the back of the fridge but I swear I remember that the fridge wasn't rocking unstably and that the milk was definitely at the back of the fridge. But I could have seen incorrectly because who pays attention to the precise location of a milk bottle when opening the fridge.

And I've encountered machines that appeared to be haunted. An ex-gf's iPod classic she kept because it is a time capsule of her music would randomly turn itself on, play 10 seconds of a random song, then turn itself off again.

I can feel how a ghost story would fit all of these and feel like it would make emotional sense to me. Like there's some deep part of our evolutionary psychology that supports feeling this way. Why?

Now in that sense I believe people genuinely experienced "ghosts" that aren't actually there but are a part of their perceived reality and I find that fascinating.

[–] Kacarott@aussie.zone 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ghosts are real but only jedi masters (like the one in the meme) can see them. Unfortunately, jedi masters are not real.

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[–] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Depends on how you define "reasonable". Personally I interpret it as "rational" in this context, and I believe that a perfectly rational person with imperfect knowledge would acknowledge that ghosts cannot be 100% disproven, and as such there is a chance that they exist. And once you're past that threshold, belief doesn't have to conflict with rational thinking.

Again, personally; I believe they don't exist. Otherwise we'd be seeing a lot fewer Victorian era ghosts, and a lot more Neolithic ectoplasm. Also, which requirements in terms of species are there for a haunting to commence? Can a horse become a ghost? What about a gorilla? Or a Neanderthal? Seems weird that only homo sapients get to play around with rusty chains and linen...

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Can a horse become a ghost?

IIRC native americans have some myths of ghostly horses who lived on after death as spiritual beings.

[–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Neolithic ectoplasm

Alright, I'm stealin' that!

[–] crazycraw@crazypeople.online 1 points 1 month ago

sounds like a good band.

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Real? Who cares? It's fun!

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[–] Cantaloupe@lemmy.fedioasis.cc 1 points 1 month ago
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