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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/43533515

When will we simply accept that it's a bubble and move on, instead of pouring a relentless amount of resources into it.

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[–] alekwithak@lemmy.world 143 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

It replaced jobs, used nonrenewable resources, oh and drove teenagers to suicide! It sounds to me like it was responsible for negative economic growth.

[–] shrugs@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yeah, but on the other hand it sometimes answered questions correctly, when I have been too lazy to Google myself. So there is that

[–] msage@programming.dev 4 points 1 month ago

Google has sucked for many years.

I understand when people say LLMs are better than Google, but that bar can't drop lower.

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[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 month ago

Are you kidding? Think of all the savings on avocado toast and rotisserie chicken from all those needless, young deaths! /s

[–] frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io 65 points 1 month ago

What about the losses due to stolen IP? Fewer jobs for creators? Should be net negative.

[–] jtrek@startrek.website 59 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I'm so tired of hearing about AI at work. They don't have the fundamentals of software development down - no tests. no linters. no automatic deployment. Dependency management is a joke. Code reviews are a rubber stamp. They only this quarter stopped people from SSH'ing onto the prod machine and making live, not in source control, changes. But they want everyone to start leveraging AI. Spending untold piles of time and money on it.

It would be far cheaper and more cost-effective to spend like, a week, on software development fundamentals.

Meanwhile, I've stubbornly forced my way through various processes and red tape to get a bare minimum of checks that run automatically on PR. This week it found someone had pushed a script with a fatal syntax error, gotten it reviewed, approved, and merged. My check goes live and flags this before it's in prod. No one cares. Management still just wants to talk about AI.

[–] fiat_lux@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago (2 children)

There's no reward for preventing fires, they only care if you put a large one out. It's immensely frustrating.

[–] MIDItheKID@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

Truth. I've been rewarded for putting out fires that I caused. I find the best thing to do in these situations is to keep my stupid mouth shut.

[–] Cort@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You might get more traction if you frame it as "I caught Gary trying to do an arson" instead of "I prevented a fire"

[–] fiat_lux@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

I'm going to substitute the name Claude for no reason in particular, but I might just take that feedback on board...

[–] EveningPancakes@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 month ago

We had a town hall at my company today and they demo'd their new AI product. It looked and sounded impressive, until you realized it wasn't the actual product but a Figma demo. If this thing ever sees the light of day, and it actually works without hallucinating bullshit data points, I'll eat my socks.

[–] GrindingGears@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 month ago

99.999999999999998898999999999899% of what's described by the executives at my work isn't AI either, it's either formulas or macros. Which have existed since what, the 80s?

Just absolutely goes to show you that these idiots have no clue, and are just throwing shit at the wall and hoping something sticks. Aka just another Tuesday.

Eat the rich. Eat the executives.

Fuck AI

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Management does not want you trained, they want to see you replaced by AI.

[–] jtrek@startrek.website 3 points 1 month ago

And yet so many people who would be replaced if this AI stuff worked seem so eager to embrace it.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 49 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Yeah. Obviously. There's a phrase which gets misinterpreted very often. "The customer is always right". People think it means if you go into Walmart, and try to buy a TV, and you say 480p is a higher resolution than 1080p, you'd be right. Because you're the customer, and you're always right, even if you're wrong.

That's not what it means. It means if you go to a store and ask to buy a 480p TV, and they don't have it, they lost a sale. The phrase really should be "The customer always dictates the market".

So when we look at AI, you ask "Ok, who's using it?" and the answer is "Everybody hates it. Everybody resents it. But we're being forced to use it, so it gets 'used' in a sense, but not willingly."

So if you have a product that nobody wants, and everybody is openly hostile towards, but you just keep forcing it down peoples throats, then yeah, you lose sales. Just ask Microsoft how Windows 11 adoption rates have been. I guess by definition, I am now a linux user. I still hate it. I have no idea how to do anything besides open a web browser. I wish I could do more with my own PC. It's not linux that's preventing me, it's my own inability to understand things. By all means, I SHOULD be a windows user.....but I'll be damned if Microsoft is going to tell me HOW I can use my own PC that I paid for. Linux isn't restricting me, but I still don't know how to do it. I'm the example of why Windows 11 is failing, and it's all because of policy regarding AI.

If nobody wants your product, it will not contribute to growth. Go try standing on the sidewalk and selling a fat mans used gym socks for $200. Nobody will buy it. Nobody wants that. So it would be kind of weird if the 11 o clock news was surprised to report that the fat mans used gym sock market was not profitable. Yet that's where we seem to be with AI right now. Media outlets are continually reporting that AI is not doing well, and every time they report it, they seem surprised.

Literally all it would take for me to go back to Windows would be for them to release "WindowsXP12" It's Windows 12, which is just Windows XP but with quality of life improvements, such as not limiting file sizes to 4GB, and allowing more than 16GB of ram, and being able to read more than 2TB hard drives. No AI, just WindowsXP exactly as you remember it, just built for the modern world. But Microsoft is too stubborn to do that. They've been baking in anti-customer features since Windows 7. So I guess by default I'm a linux user now.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 19 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I also feel like AI got used as an excuse to fire without spooking the market. As interest rates rose and remote work opportunities opened up the world labor market, saying that your company was using AI to fill developer jobs gave tech companies the smokescreen to fire senior devs in high CoL areas by saying "fUtUrE!" instead of admitting they were cutting development to the bone.

After the layoffs, since the tools are in place to develop from everywhere, why maintain Bay Area salaries?

[–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Because all those assholes want everyone in the office.

[–] GhostedIC@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Might be that they're finally realizing you don't need to be in-office, but to them that means you really should be in Punjab.

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[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It did.

Thats not even a conspiracy theory, that's just math.

The consumer economy is contracting, the vast majority of businesses report somewhere between negative to 0 to minimal productivity gains from AI... a number of firms that cut people for AI, are already trying to hire people back.

Yeah. Its mostly a cover story... because we are starting to slope down more rapidly into the Second Great Depression.

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[–] juice702@lemmy.world 46 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sam Altman is such a dweeb

[–] FallenWalnut@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago

They did him dirty with that image, and I'm all for it 😂

[–] matlag@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 month ago

That's probably because we've not poured enough money in it yet. 1 or 2 more trillions and it will create growth like you've never seen before!

[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 18 points 1 month ago

It did, however, add a shit ton of fraud and severe episodes of mental illness. So that more than makes up for it!

[–] joyjoy@lemmy.zip 18 points 1 month ago

We must keep the money pit burning!

[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

We didn't replace workers like we thought we would.

-Rich people, effectively.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Oh we are in the process of 'accepting that its a bubble' right now.

Problem is that what that looks like is more and more Private Equity/Credit firms taking haircuts and a few starting the Private Credit version of a bank run.

So, when the bubble pops, the economy gets much, much worse than it currently is, and yeah that means your 401k and pension funds get fucked.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

And the ultra wealthy won't feel the sting, and will be able to buy up much much more and repeat the process allll over again

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sure it will burst, companies will go bankrupt, millions of peoples retirement savings will disappear, and many will suffer /die from the economic aftershock...

BUT

The rich will have already realized their dividends / capital gains

The rich will have already purchased the land / property

The rich will already have the data centers / ram / AI

They rich will have their assets and eat ours to

...

The whole system is a kleptocracy and the AI bubble bursting will make late stage capitalism worse not better.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

the AI bubble bursting will make late stage capitalism worse not better.

No arguments here

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You may or may not be surprised by how many people call me an AI shill for acknowledging that.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I am surprised, I mean fuck AI entirely, but how could it get better? Us plebs will just get more fucked over

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

If people in general had the economic/historic background knowledge to understand what's actually coming we wouldn't be in this situation in the first place.

Unfortunately people are powerless, angry, and grasping at straws with regards to cheering for the AI bubble to burst.

[–] InputZero@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not only that, they'll get a public bailout because they're "Too big to fail." Like literally why are we paying taxes when we know that our tax dollars will just be handed over to the billionaires because they just keep breaking everything?

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They dont have enough money to bail out these tech companies...

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

They can always print it.

And effectively tax all of us via inflation.

Fed does that everytime the US government wants to issue debt and there aren't enough buyers for at the given interest rate.

... why do you think Trump has been basically taking over the Fed?

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Wow, what a hitpiece, the only reason AI added "Basically Zero" to US Economic Growth last year is in the calculations for this article they deceptively subtracted costs from the revenue!!!!!!

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They told us years ago that AI would transform the job landscape within 6 months. This is starting to feel like Elons musks full self driving. Which he still hasnt effing delivered. Industry con artists like Musk and Altman should be in jail for defrauding investors.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 4 points 1 month ago

I don't know about others, my job has been transformed quite a lot, as well as how we approach hiring.

Additionally, although it turned out to be a mistake, plenty of people got fired to be replaced by AI, that's a transformation (nobody said it would be a positive one).

[–] boaratio@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Less than zero.

Meanwhile most electric utility and metal works companies have gone up 75% on the stock market ... i wonder why that is

(i actually don't, i know why it is, it's because cheap renewable energy boosts all heavy industries)

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Sunken cost fallacy

[–] pkjqpg1h@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago

So you're telling me you don't want to generate emails and summarize PDFs with AI? 😔 /s

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

well i mean ai bros looked at what musk was doing and said "i can add that kind of value"

[–] BranBucket@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

I feel like the relevant text for this moment would be The Subprime Attention Crisis by Tim Hwang.

AI was just a blip on the radar when it was written, but I felt he did a good job illustrating how tech bubbles form and are propped up using examples from the 2008 housing crisis.

[–] fritobugger2017@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

I am shocked!

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