TenForward: Where Every Vulcan Knows Your Name

Is that what those symbiotes are swimming in?

I wish someone would shove some gay down my throat.

It's like that thing where if a meeting has women talking for 20% of the time some men freak out about how it's all women all the time.

They're emotionally keyed up so it feels like a bigger deal, and they're emotionally keyed up so they're not going to rationally assess this. That'd assuming they're acting in good faith to begin with, which is not a given.

I was watching an anime this season that unexpectedly to me turned out to have a large gay subplot.All of the characters turned out to be gay men and they're all infatuated with the main character.

I was surprised that I found that entire subplot and its associated scenes so incredibly tedious. It made me wonder whether gay people feel the same way watching straight romances.

I have an issue with him being named Jayden.

I really couldn't care less about the whole gay aspect.

However, in my personal head-canon Jay-Den's sensitivity and fear of public speaking doesn't quite line up with how I imagine the mind and emotions of a full-blood Klingon would work. I feel like every Klingon would have the instincts and emotions of a predator/hunter and I haven't quite seen that in Jay-Den. To me the character would make more sense if he was only part Klingon, like Alexander.

Then again, who's to say to what extent stereotypical Klingon behaviour is defined culturally as opposed to genetically? I do think it's interesting and refreshing to see a Klingon acting contrary to cultural norms and I do like the character. The only other Klingon character I can recall who wasn't a full-blown warrior is that one scientist in TNG.

He was seeking glory(holes)

The Romans only considered it gay if you were a bottom. Romane eunt domus

"I noticed that those other people exist and and are living their lives, so you must stop shoving them DoWn OuR ThRoAtS!!"

The honor system is pretty subjective, I believe Worf was in a catch22 where not joining the Klingons to fight the federation was considered dishonourable but betraying the federation was also dishonourable.

For this situation i would say that creating offspring would be considered honourable but lying to your partner and yourself about your true feelings of love would be very dishonourable.

Also in many context just because you did not do an honorable thing yourself, that does not automatically dishonour you.

There is nothing as manly as gay sex.

Klingon sex is akin to battle. Especially if they are "sword fighting".

The real question would be if a klingon dies during gay sex, would they go to Stovokor?

I feel like it wouldn't matter. Like having a romantic relationship is irrelevant to them, but the joining of houses would be a different story. Even then, the Klingons adopt and add people to their houses with some frequency, so siring an heir doesn't strike me as an obligation so much as making sure the house survives and performs deeds of honor.

What, you don't like the main character immediately running into and immediately getting crushed on by a princess the moment her species shows up? Or being the main character to come up with a basic idea to appeal to them that a several hundred year old supposedly wise person couldn't? Or that they run formal debates in the future like a dance-off? Or that they often talk like people from the 20th century instead of using more timless and intelligent phrasing?

Or that the show is written more like science-FICTION than SCIENCE-fiction while wearing Trek paint? ... ok ok that one is generic and kinda' applies to all new trek...