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[–] thethrilloftime69@feddit.online 41 points 6 hours ago

If the system can't survive punishing pedophiles, then we shouldn't have it.

[–] David_Eight@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

The system would be fine.

[–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 10 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

I always wonder how accelerationists imagine themselves in this collapsed society.

[–] LurkingLuddite@piefed.social 3 points 1 hour ago

Society can always collapse further.

Until people are fighting their neighbors with sticks and stones with no power or gas or internet for the dregs of the least-collapsed house in the region, it can always get worse.

[–] Jean_le_Flambeur@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Good question, can't answer that as I'm not an accelerationist.

I dont think a collapse happens not by itself in such a case, but by civil rights groups, socialists, anarchists, workers and ordinary people bringing it down. It will depend on them to build a better system.

My vote would go to democratic socialism, but most societal systems would be better than the most powerful nation being a facist system imho

[–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 0 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

Yeah, a controlled collapse led by my preferred party who then lead the new society into my perfect system sounds awesome.

[–] Jean_le_Flambeur@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 6 minutes ago

Well speaking historically if a system needed a fundamental change (revolutionary one might say) it seems that doing such changes in rather short time and rather drastically has worked better than incremental change

[–] Jean_le_Flambeur@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 11 minutes ago

Well I would be happy with another system to if we decide so trough fair discourse as a society. Maybe I am naiv, but i consider facism as the bad end of the spectrum as far as societal systems go, most stuff is better even if its not my preferred utopia.

[–] LurkingLuddite@piefed.social 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Don't forget the part about where the new leader voluntarily gives up control because they've achieved utopia.

[–] Jean_le_Flambeur@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 9 minutes ago

Jup, that's why personality cult sucks. Can't wait for the easy fix that humans seem to like it, even if they know its bad. Evolutionary I guess, we tend to personify.

[–] halfsalesman@piefed.social 15 points 5 hours ago

The same way people who fantasize about zombie apocalypses. Free roaming survivors enjoying the fruits of a dead civilization with bits of largely consequence free violence thrown in here and there.

Either that or they think their ideology will come out on top, and they're enjoy the fruits of their utopia, while all the non-believers are long dead, having been killed off by their fellow ideologues.

[–] FilthyShrooms@lemmy.world 14 points 7 hours ago

I'd call that a Win-Win

[–] Kowowow@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 hours ago

I still think that if it all comes down wrong it wouldn't be unreasonable for china to start pulling the us apart and eating it so I'd argue for controlled demolition rather than just collapse

[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Hell yeah, a fellow Rednoter.

Nah, I just stole the meme from a telegram group, sry to disappoint you

[–] far_university1990@reddthat.com 1 points 6 hours ago

Bash manual in there. Want to arrest bash maintainer?