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"It's just a soap opera"
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Reads Dune
"It's just a soap opera"
YA fiction isn't irredemable. My biggest problem with it is that they're trying to write in danger, but there are limits to what they can put in. So you often end up with this 'implied danger' that has plotholes a mile wide, while they try to make your fear for the character. There was this one book, somewhere in paritals, where the heroine was somehow stuck between two lab machines, and one of them wasn't grounded correctly, so she kept getting intermittently shocked, and as she tried to escape, she would get shocked again. It felt like an entire chapter, but it was likely only a few paragraphs. amounted to, she's stuck, she got a little shocked, she got out.
As with literally everything else, there's good YA and bad YA.
Check out Brandon Sanderson's "Mistborn" or "Skyward". I'd say they're both the "good YA" kind where danger is real (as much as any danger towards the protagonist before the very end of the book, obviously they won't get killed off in the first chapter) and the story relatively original. The world-building is excellent, though.
I'll have to check those out. Thanks for the suggestions!
"I-I'm only reading the Twilight Saga to know if it's appropriate for my daughter *sweats profusely* I-I don't have a shrine to Edward in my closet!"
Dad was team Jacob all the way until the last book.
All adults I know are Team "Get Fucking Therapy You're Like 100 Years Older Than Her Or A Dog."
Stephenie Meyer writing Jacob in the last book:

Donald Trump was unironically obsessed with ~~Edward~~ Robert Pattinson and Kristen Stewart's relationships. Had multiple crashouts on Twitter about it.
https://ew.com/news/2017/02/05/donald-trump-kristen-stewart-tweets/
Lol Robert Pattinson, you mean
Lol you right you right
Considering he's been heavily involved in the romantic relationships of many teenagers, it's just par for the course for him.
Sounds like this sweaty man has a shrine of every Twilight character, other than Edward, in his closet.
It sounds kind of ridiculous but this is actually pretty smart. I'd prefer to know what my kids are diving into and maybe set up guardrails or at least warnings if something they were interested in was funky.
I mean if they're reading books in the first place you're probably already in the clear
As a kid I read a book about a school with 30 rooms built sideways, so an oopsie tower, where each chapter is about a student or the teacher.
Sammy, the odd student from chapter 14, is a dead rat in many raincoats, and being a dead rat, Sammy is thrown in the trash.
Twilight is weirder than this?
I read a book with a school whose students were all boys whose name started with the letter A. It was literally a requirement.
I don't remember much but I do seem to recall they had a field trip to a "hole factory" so they got to take various holes as souvenirs.
Different kind of weird. Sideways Stories are goofy kids stories.
Twilight is fanfic with ageless vampires that choose to creep on high schoolers, and werewolves that fall in love with newborn infants.
Ah, ok, so it's gross-weird?
I have a non consensual relationship with twilight lore drops like this
Hey, Sideways Stories From Wayside School is great! And weird, but good weird. Twilight was the first thing I thought of when the COVID toilet paper crisis hit.
What about a sentient bowl of petunias that is falling to its "death", again, and is the reincarnation of a rabbit, whale, fly, and cow? Or an android monk believing everything was the same shade of pink, making it too early to move from the spot it was on for fear of falling off a cliff, so it sat on the back of the (manufactured, organic) horse it was riding?
Yes, there can be multiple books that are weird or have weird stories. It doesn't have the be the weirdest one to still be weird.
I remember one holiday with my mum and dad in a cottage in the hills. They had a DVD player and dvds on the shelf in the little living room We put Gone Girl on because it was relatively recent and I'd heard of it, and about 10 minutes in my dad was like "oh wait, I've read this book.....it's shite."
I insisted we watch the whole thing because I cant stand watching a bit of something I find I dont like, voice my opinion on it, and then get told that if I didn't watch 'til the end, then how can I know?
Anyway, he was correct.
Your dad? Ben Affleck. Your mom? Neil Patrick Harris.
Its a weird take. Appropriate books? Da fuck? That is already covered by the 18+ sticker on them for the porn books?
Might be a religion thing? The Twilight author is mormon iirc so she stays within the lines of what's okay there. So the dad might have considered non-mormon behavior to be inappropriate, even if the book isn't 18+?
Different parents have different sensibilities i guess, and different books have different contexts. I'm not very well read in this field at all, but at the beginning of one of the Tiffany Aching series of Discworld books, a subseries wrote specifically for young adults, a 13 year old side character gets beaten by her drunken father into a miscarriage after he found out she had a boyfriend and the main character has to bury the remains and saves the father from hanging himself.
Most of the series are Harry Potter level magic and adventure, but that was pretty shocking and I'd be a bit wary letting my 12 year old read that.
subseries wrote specifically for young adults
but that was pretty shocking and I’d be a bit wary letting my 12 year old read that.
While I do think that letting children read dark books (as long the "darkness" isn't because the author's edgy) is not only ok, but necessary for them to be able to handle darker emotions, I want to mention that 12 is teen, or pre-teen, but definitely not a young adult.
SSS+ Guardianship.

Such a noble sacrifice won't be forgotten
Same here. Olympians passed easily, Hunger game barely, and Twilight not at all.
Weird and bad.
Lets all take a moment and realize this same author wrote about space jelly dragons with silver ribbon sentient parasites.