Discussions on vintage and retrocomputing
A great resource when looking for older GUI shells/OS's is Toastytech: http://toastytech.com/guis/index.html
Lots of info and screenshots to browse through there. And if you don't find what you're looking for you might find something else that's interesting :)
Maybe GeOS/Geoworks?
Geos was great on the C64, but completely useless, lol
I didn't know there was a PC version!
was it though? I guess it depend on having a mouse, a second floppy drive and a printer. You could thus use it as a desktop publishing platform, or spreadsheet calculator.
Nope, it was slow to load and use compared with text-based software for doing the same thing back in the day. An Amstrad PCW was better for actual work
ViewMAX or GEM. Both from Digital Research.
I remember OS/2 by IBM which looked like Windows 3.11, and OS/2 Warp which looked like Windows 95. There were probably others.
DOS Shell was something like that. Not much in the way of functionality, but it was graphical…ish.
The first computer my dad bought, back in the late '80s, was mostly a DOS machine that also came with a mouse-driven GUI called GEM.
I don't know if it ran on top of DOS, though. It booted directly from its own set of disks.
It looked like this:
It was pretty similar to modern Windows but without taskbar or Start menu.
Instead, you had a main window called "program manager" with icons in it to start other programs.
Do you have any specific questions about it?
What is that? I don’t think that’s what I had in mind. I think it’s DESQview I was trying to think of. Anyway, not important.. it was just driving me nuts I could not remember.
Sorry, I think I misunderstood your question.
And I had literally never heard of any Windows 3 alternatives up to now.
To be fair, I was quite vague. I think there are multiple right answers.. but I recalled one starting w/a 'D' and that’s what I was trying to recall.
I thought your question was clear for what it's worth. If it was Windows 3.0 era you're probably looking for ViewMAX (from the same company as DR-DOS, which was an MS-DOS compatible operating system, maybe that's where the 'D' comes from?). I vaguely remember reading (or maybe watching) a good feature about it online a while ago but I can't find it unfortunately.
Digital Research DOS, of my memory is right
Correct, yes (I meant the 'D' evenwicht said they recalled it starting with if that wasn't clear, indeed for Digital Research, in fact I had to look up DR-DOS to remember the name ViewMAX).
O, wow, ViewMaxx... I had completely forgotten that.
Sure would like to get a collection of this stuff and run in a VM just for fun.
HP had an internal system just to make a simple GUI in DOS, forget what it was called. Just gave you buttons for a dozen programs.
Is there a specific screenshot you're thinking of?
No, I figured if I could recall the name I could get a nostalgic fix by searching it. I found this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DESQview
I recall DESQview was much lighter weight and better performing than Windows, but had limitations. I did not recall that the windows were text only within, but that’s starting to fill some holes in my memory.
You may be thinking of DesqViewX:
https://lunduke.substack.com/p/desqviewx-the-forgotten-mid-1990s
Edit for a little personal anecdote: ran a 2-line (2400, then later 14.4k) WWIV BBS under this on a 386sx in the 90s. What an awesome time that was.
q. name one 'os' that sucked donkey balls getting a functional tcp/ip stack runnin'
In those days, DOS was the OS. Windows and DESQview were just window manager apps that ran other apps.
hence the single quotes.. i was just pullin a jeopardy
Haha
Oh Trumpet something... The hell of getting a stack back then
WinSock Trumpet (yea, that was on Win 3.1)