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My opinon of AI has changed (lemmy.zip)
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I was going to argue with someone about giving and example how llms able to perform tasks, example task: convert this plain text into structured markdown table

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(and they did good enough but you know I can't trust 100%) but then I realize for this task and many many task i used AI can be done with just core linux tools with 100% accuracy with 100% reproducibility and you won't have any suspicion and it's free and very fast

for this specific one task even a very cheap model Kimi-K2.5 cost $0.006 maybe this looks nothing but this is just one prompt think what if you create an agent that you use everyday (agents cost much more tokens)

like if i prompt like this everyday with 100 message in a month it'll cost

  • if Moonshot Kimi-K2.5 ----- $18
  • if OpenAI GPT-5.2 ----- $93
  • if Google Gemini-3-Pro ----- $105
  • if Claude Opus 4.6 ----- $200

what the hell??? this text is is not even that big! what if I feed youtube videos, large pdfs, full documentations or translate long texts?

maybe I can think "these models will be cheaper"

but the problem is not just cost

  • in best chance it gives good-enough result, not best
  • it's just simulate current information and it creates a loop (it'll always follow current trends)
  • it's killing innovation
  • you can't reproduce a result
  • you can't really trust (simple example: there is a list off apps, one of them is streamio, and you ask a llm to list free apps, but it can hide stremio and you'l never know, ok this was fictional, then here is a real example if you ask "How to block ads on YouTube" some models will not suggest or even not mention Revanced)
  • it's making us lazy and irrogant
  • it's promote confident but not accurate information
  • it's a single-point-of-failure
  • it's killing creativity
  • it's killing human interaction (think you use an llm to write a email for you and the receiver use a llm to summarize it and use llm to answer that email,,, than what's the meaning of communication?)
  • it's promoting quick information shots (you can't summarize somethings, or you can't eli5 somethings you need to give hard efforts and time, if everyone summarize everything than why we'll have books, videos, articles... if you summarize something that mean it's not important for you and looking that is a problem from beginning)

From now on I'm starting an experiment for 1 week to see results;

  • I will not use any AI/LLM
  • I will block all AI/LLM websites
  • For help I'll ask humans
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[–] galoisghost@aussie.zone 17 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I remember when Wikipedia started gaining traction and the alarm that was raised about how it couldn’t be trusted because anyone could edit it. At the time it was mentioned to discredit Wikipedia but I think in the long run it benefited it as a resource. Generally I think people know it’s a launching pad to learning not a definitive resource.

These days people ask an LLM a question and believe whatever bullshit it spots out as the god given truth. It’s absolutely fucking insane.

[–] pkjqpg1h@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 hour ago

they treat llms as a oracle :::)

I think in the long run it benefited it as a resource.

Wikipedia is GREAT, why I missed this treasure for years

but if we don't get new young editors in 10 years we may lose this treasure nytimes archive.org theguardian

[–] cronenthal@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

I read a long article in a German newspaper about how openclaw will finally change everything. The journalist was convinced once he started using it himself. Of course the cost was handled by the publication. The things he used it for that totally blew his mind: he got a text about the day's weather and whether he should plan a bit more time for getting his kids ready when it was going to rain. Also, he got a digest of the nights news. Another article, unrelated, got into how someone accidentally paid 200,- $ to set a reminder when the sun would come up. The morons proclaiming the AI revolution are truly the dumbest of the pack.

[–] pkjqpg1h@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 hour ago

got a text about the day’s weather and whether he should plan a bit more time for getting his kids ready when it was going to rain

we have this tech for 10 years...

[–] BennyInc@feddit.org 3 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Well, those people also believe the cost will go down in the future. Once we have fusion reactors energy costs would go to 0 and we don’t have to care about heating up the planet with GPUs anymore.

[–] pkjqpg1h@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I may beliave that but how can we fix "model collapse" or any other core problem?

[–] kboos1@lemmy.world 2 points 49 minutes ago

But why would it be cheaper? It's a well known fact that as long as people are willing to pay for it, if cost goes down the price doesn't go down, margin goes up.

[–] kayzeekayzee@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Fusion reactors will still require maintenance and staff, as well as the cost of contruction

[–] TribblesBestFriend@startrek.website 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Fusion reactors will still require maintenance and staff, as well as the cost of contruction And the taxes of the capital class *

[–] ch00f@lemmy.world 47 points 6 hours ago

The number of ads that are like “Hey AI, make me a personalized exercise plan.”

Like, do you know how many fucking exercise plans are out there? Do you have an unusual quantity of legs that would require custom tailoring? Just pick one.

Put on shoes. Run. The lack of AI is not what’s standing in your way.

[–] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 18 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

To add to your list:

Delegating of a task to a third party allocates control of how that task is done to said party. They can:

  • Vary the cost (not like you know how to do it anymore)
  • Modify the result to suit their economic/political preferences
  • Refuse to perform the task or deliberately sabotage the output if the task contradicts their interest.

"Hey robot, build an app that helps people fight fascism"

LOL no.

[–] pkjqpg1h@lemmy.zip 5 points 5 hours ago

yeah and it's like shadowbanning you can't know what's missing

[–] luftruessel@feddit.org 16 points 6 hours ago

The vibe coding bro in my team proudly announced that he had even written some proper tests for our recent software project. Since I had struggled with that quite a bit (because of reasons) I wondered how he had achieved it and how they worked. "I don't know" was the answer I got.

[–] kunaltyagi@programming.dev 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

There are models trained ethically (using data which is public domain). You can run them locally. Then the cost goes to $0 (as long as the LLM is capable).

I think of LLM as a lossy search. I'd not use an entire book as query for Google/bing. Similarly, there's no point in getting data via a lossy transformation. I'd rather the model tell me which tooling I can use and how. That's something I can easily verify and learn with.

The rest of the points stand.

[–] pkjqpg1h@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

rather the model tell me which tooling I can use

as I mention before "it’s just simulate current information and it creates a loop (it’ll always follow current trends)"

It will never/rarely promote any grey area thing (eg: torrents, shadow-libraries, paywall bypass, not following ToS...)

and apparently Anthropic, OpenAI (is the lead at censoring hiding in a mask of "safety") and looks like Google don't care that much "safety", for now

How can I trust this kind of thing??

Look what Claude said me about bypass paywall;

- Incognito/private browsing — Works on some soft paywalls
- Disable JavaScript — Some client-side paywalls rely on it
- Articles shared on social media sometimes bypass meters

what?! it's lawyering me with cheap tactics?

and it said this!

Subscriptions to 1–2 key outlets can be very affordable

I won't subscribe to a news site for just to read one article it's stupid to pay $12 (unlimited news for 1 month) I don't want unlimited, count all your articles and divide by $12 than I will pay this for each article I read.

As you can see this stupid parrots is reducing any new thing, new tool, new brands, new platforms, new opinion, new system, new ideology...

This is highly authoritarian and thanks right now I hate it more than ever

[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 6 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not much of a specialist but feel free to ask me for any help you need. Forewarning, my image generation is much slower.

[–] pkjqpg1h@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 hours ago

thanks <3 I'll

[–] artwork@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Thank you... thank you very much, from the depth of my heart...

Of course... every single iteration, by design, depends on the previous output, as the general feedback you'd see in bitwise encoder cascades, where no one will ever know what will produce the next iteration, due to it being based solely on probability backed by undisclosed/unknown initial data source, and sometimes undisclosed algorithm.

Not only that, but the huge probability of mistakes is just deafening. The last time I used LLM was in 2023 someone recommended for a task at paper work, and I got a literal headache in 10 minutes… Since then I never ever will use that sorrow for anything that is not for blackbox pentesting or experimental unverified data generated you may find in medicine or military isolated solutions.

That deafening feel that every single bit of output from that LLM or void machine may contain a mistake no soul is accountable for to ask about… A generated bit of someone’s work you just cannot verify since no source nor human is available… How would you trace the rationale that resulted in the output shown?

Faster? Is that so… Doesn’t verification of every output require even more time to test it and consider stable, to prove it is correct, to stay accountable for the knowledge and actions you perform as a developer, artist, researcher… human?

Your mind is to be trained to do a research, remember, and do not depend on someone’s service to a level of predominance/replacement. Meanwhile, effort, passion, creativity, empathy, and love, in turn, you carry, supports in long-term.

You may not care now, though, but you do you. It’s your mind and memory you develop.

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Thank you, dear pkjqpg1h@lemmy.zip , for being accountable, wise, and for believing in accountability and purpose for discovery and art of human experience.

[–] pkjqpg1h@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 hours ago

No, thank you. thanks to you, I found a great blogpost written by a human that actually worth to read. the blogpost