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More than a dozen food companies have urged the European Commission not to ban the use of words such as “sausage” and “burger” for non-meat products.

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[–] markovs_gun@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

I think there's a valid concern here. When fake meat technology inevitably becomes cheaper than real meat, companies will definitely try passing off fake meat as real meat or try to thin out real meat with fake meat, and will definitely try to be deceptive about it. However, I think the solution is to allow the terms sausage and burger, but require very clear labeling like requiring the term "plant-based" or "partially plant based" to be on the packaging in the same font size as the term "sausage" or "burger" if there is more than 20% plant matter included (number based on existing EU regulations for sausages). That said, IDK if this would fully stop it. In the US it would just have as little description as possible with "[Brand Name] Links" or "[Brand Name] Patties" if they weren't allowed to say sausage or burger.

[–] qarbone@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago

If it's ground up and tubed into a thin, edible casing skin, it's a sausage.

[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

That is so silly. I love pork sausage but veggie sausage is the next best one and clearly is sausage.

Same as "burger", it is a preparation not an ingredient.

[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 11 points 14 hours ago

sausages are already pretty much non-meat products though, unless its actually well made sausage

[–] texture@lemmy.world 6 points 13 hours ago

desperate dinosaurs are scrambling to protect their investments in the torment of animals, who knew

[–] whaleross@lemmy.world 21 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I'm a happy meat eater and considering the number of different kinds of sausage with all different ingredients in different proportions and different textures and different herbs and spices and different skins and different sizes and different ways to prepare them I think this is absolutely ridiculous.

If tiny dried sausages with lamb and herbs in natural skin are just as much sausage as spiced up raw mince in a plastic skin are just as much sausage as precooked hot dogs with pork and salt but mostly potato filler in mysterious edible non natural skin, then a sausage with vegetable mash for filling is definitely a sausage as well.

[–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

Yeah sausage is at least in my eyes a form of food. Kinda like a loaf of bread can be different types of bread so can a sausage be different meat (or not even meat at all).

[–] wieson@feddit.org 52 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

Listen, I'm not a vegan, but I find this names that are bent around the bush so annoying.

Yeah, I get it , it's not literally milk. But calling it "almond milk" is waaay smoother than "almond drink" or "almond concoction" or whatever.

Same with Malzbier.

[–] tresspass@lemmy.world 20 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

The definition of milk literally includes plant milks. Milk has been used to describe these beverages for as long as they have existed.

[–] wieson@feddit.org 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I agree, but that's not what the marketing law in Germany says. Not long ago, it was changed by conservatives to only include real cow's milk.

[–] tresspass@lemmy.world 6 points 16 hours ago

What a bunch of snowflakes. Imagine that being the biggest problem in your life.

[–] SkavarSharraddas@gehirneimer.de 4 points 14 hours ago

But calling it "almond milk" is waaay smoother than "almond drink" or "almond concoction"

By having to give it a weird name those products and the sustainability argument behind it get associated with weirdness, and are less appealing to people who might otherwise consider trying them.

[–] Jajcus@sh.itjust.works 11 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I have seen coconut milk sold as 'coconut drink', even though it is not used as drink. That is stupid.

[–] xep@discuss.online 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

In the case of coconut there's both the milk and the water, and coconut drink is likely the water.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

i argue calling it coconut drink is stupid, because in the specific case of coconuts you should specify milk or water.

[–] ViatorOmnium@piefed.social 97 points 23 hours ago (5 children)

I think the rules should be even stricter. An Hamburger should only be made in Hamburg, otherwise it's a Minced Corpse Patty.

[–] Zier@fedia.io 8 points 20 hours ago

It should actually be called Cow Mince. We have Pork Chops, Lamb Chops, they should use Cow as well.

Fucking metal. I'm in.

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[–] jenesaisquoi@feddit.org 11 points 16 hours ago

"Ground up dead body of an animal fisted into another animals anal canal"

I mean we can just call it what it is

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 5 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Sure, a vegi sausage is still a sausage.

Same thing in Swiss; it's Oat Drink, can't be called Oat Milk. Guess the meat industry is strong in EU.

[–] HolidayGreed@sh.itjust.works 3 points 13 hours ago

That is simply a delicious looking pork sword.

[–] Zier@fedia.io 14 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

Sausages can be called "links". Burgers can be called "patties". The only people pissed about Soy Milk, Vegan Burgers and Veggie Sausages are the corporations who sell meat exclusively, and the people who don't read food packaging. Smart vegan & vegetarians know that you need to read the ingredients before you buy that product. I always make sure I go home with the right wiener.

[–] dupelet_comments@piefed.social 9 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

There's definitely some bad actors in food packaging, though. In some countries, it's insane how hard it is to differentiate between butter and some non-dairy spread at the grocery.

[–] Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 13 hours ago

I can't believe it's not butter!

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 3 points 17 hours ago

I take it a step further, I don't just make sure that I take the right weiner home, I inspect it before I put it in my mouth. and especially give it a sniff test.

[–] FatVegan@leminal.space 2 points 17 hours ago

The other day i tried to buy an oat drink, for my coffee. I usually have a favourite brand, but i don't care as much. It didn't have any that i recognized, but damn the one i bought, i had to read really closely what kind of "milk" it was.

[–] zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 18 hours ago (4 children)

Just call it Vurst and be happy.

[–] JiffyBag@feddit.org 2 points 10 hours ago

Not the vurst idea I've heard.

[–] uniquethrowagay@feddit.org 2 points 14 hours ago

Alternatively: VVurst

[–] jenesaisquoi@feddit.org 3 points 16 hours ago

'Schland detektiert

[–] pantherina@feddit.org 7 points 17 hours ago

"Minced corpse in colon + antibiotics"

[–] runwaylights@lemmy.world 27 points 23 hours ago

I couldn't care less what you call them. You can call them vegetable dicks and I would still eat them. It's just a ridiculous waste of resources powered by the meat lobby who have seen a portion of their market share disappear.

[–] ThirdConsul@lemmy.zip 22 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I hate that a sausage comes from a "food company" instead of a butcher. (Or grocer for vegan sausage)

[–] harmbugler@piefed.social 8 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

So, food companies, just how much actual meat is there in your sausages and what animal parts are you using?

[–] Hansae@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 19 hours ago

Ngl the difference between a local butchers farm sausages & mass produced meat tubes is huge.

[–] mr_anny@sopuli.xyz 8 points 19 hours ago

Sausage can be whatever as the name corresponds to beinh heavily salted.

[–] dust_accelerator@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Sooo. There's a word.

Kackwurst, die

Grammatik
Substantiv (Femininum)

  • Genitiv Singular: Kackwurst
  • Nominativ Plural: Kackwürste

Aussprache
[ˈkakvʊʁst]

Worttrennung
Kack-wurst

Clearly, this may be, or may not be a meat product. If they want to regulate something so so far, they must go all the way!

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