Running into a stationary object that is NOT on the roadway should be an immediate re-test of driving skills. People in the U.S. and elsewhere constantly "forget" that they are driving a 3,000-pound or heavier killing machine. The lives lost is just abhorrent. This woman is getting off easy because of her age is what I see. After her period of probation when she will not be allowed to drive, she should be required to take driving lessons and re-test if she wants her drivers license reinstated. Sounds to me like she can afford it. I hope the surviving family members sue her into oblivion. Killing 4 people not in the roadway with a motor vehicle shows me a lack of respect for the dangers of driving.
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old people and people with certain medical conditions should be re-tested at various stages for motor skills and diving ability. they're constantly a danger with their awful depth perception, reaction time, motor skills, and they slow traffic lending to already compounding traffic issues. and I am certain nothing gets done on that front because it's the same old people who are in charge of deciding such laws and lord forbid they do the right thing even if there are inconveniences.
these fucking zombies will be on a laundry list of heavy meds then throw a fit when you suggest they're unfit for driving, fuck outta here
Woman ran a stopsign, hit my uncle who was on a scooter. My uncle died, brains splattered all over the road.
She didn't even get a ticket.
A no-contest plea indicates that while a criminal defendant does not admit guilt, they waive their right to a trial and allow the court to treat them as if they were guilty for the purposes of sentencing.
Honestly, what the fuck is that? Shouldn't even be a thing.
I think I would curate a bulletproof alibi... and then (definitely not😏😏) go and get my revenge in the middle of the night!
If the justice system lets me down in such a blatant manner then it's time to (definitely not 😏😏) take matters in to my own hands.
80 years old and doing 70 mph / 115kph in a residential area. What the fuck. Under no circumstances should she have been left with her license. She's a danger to society.
Protected because she's rich it seems. Disgusting.
My nephew had his truck destroyed while it was parked on the street by some monster in a BMW who was doing 130+ in a 35mph zone.
Nice: two birds with one stone.
balance the deaths with the other factors of the case, including ... and her remorse
What remorse, she didn't even plead guilty.
And I wonder how much the victims being Brazilian impacted the sentence.
victims being Brazilian impacted the sentence.
victims being poor impacted the sentence.
Good lawyers would have ripped a new asshole to the whole justice system.
They were waiting at a bus shelter. She transferred millions of dollars to family members to avoid financial penalties.
I am confident an economic disparity impacted the sentence.
I think the threshold for licence removal is two families
The threshold is way higher for revocation. You have to do something absolutely wild for that to happen, such as pull off of a road without a shoulder and into a parking lot while the police are trying to stop you
What an absolute failure of a judge. Hopefully the family's relatives avenge them.
Murder is illegal unless committed with a car. In my country we have "vehicle murder" which carries a shorter sentence than a 1st degree voluntary murder but it's still ≈10 years behind bars. The US should do something similar
We do sort of have that. It's called manslaughter. Under normal circumstances, this woman would have been charged with several counts of manslaughter and would be in prison with her license revoked.
She was charged with 4 counts of gross vehicular manslaughter, and she pled guilty; she just isn't being punished.
But she didn't plead guilty, according to the article. She pleded 'no-contest' so she didn't admit guilt, just stopped defending herself after she heard that she isn't going to be punished anyway.
She just walked away after the judge said she can do that without consequences.
You're right, I misread - still ridiculous but less so. Thank you!
Pleading guilty would have at least demonstrated some remorse.
I'd rather forgive someone that said "Sorry, I did something bad, and learn from it" then someone that just first say "I didn't do it." and then when informed that they aren't going to be punished say "Whatever." and walk away.
So, she not pleading guilty and still not getting punished, while at fault is more rediculus to me.
You know that's a damn good point. The what-the-fuck just doesn't stop.
This is the type of situation that mandatory minimum sentences are meant for.
At her age that would be a life sentence.
If the actual crime was driving when she’s no longer capable, then killing people, any justice needs to start with no longer driving. Plus, aren’t the people not taking her license also complicit with letting her drive when she’s is no longer capable?
Fully agree. Discretion needs to be removed from those who leave this kind of thing unpunished.
I believe where I live those mandatory sentences are merely guidelines for judges though. Their word is law.
When the system fails, delivering justice becomes a duty of the people.
of course
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You don't understand, walker, cars have more right than you do. It's their fault for not being born as the advanced race of cars.
It's a car eat car world
im not surprised its a mercedes driver. worst than bmw drivers, they often try to pull insurance fraud scams.
I don't know about the insurance fraud, but when I see a Mercedes I put distance between myself and them. The most bonkers and dangerous shit I've seen on the highways is from Mercedes drivers.
worst than bmw drivers
Ah c'mon now. That's going too far.
I'd love to know what the stats are.
Edit: finding it difficult to get raw numbers but I did come across this little nugget:
BMWs are coveted cars, but their owners earned the particularly poor distinction of being most likely to drive under the influence. “BMW drivers had 3.13 DUIs per 1,000 drivers
Link.