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[–] Confused_Emus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

And listen, I know people harp on this a lot, but it's a company literally named after an orb that lets the most evil force in the world spy on your thoughts.

Minor nitpick from a LotR nerd - that’s not how the Palantíri work. But I suppose that’s not really all that important considering the real topic at hand here.

[–] CarrieForle@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Created an account on Stoat and Matrix. So far I prefer Stoat as it's easier and more intuitive to use.

[–] RelativityRanger@lemmy.ca 1 points 20 seconds ago

Stoat is centralized and has no e2ee

[–] clot27@lemmy.zip 11 points 10 hours ago

fuck discord

[–] Amuletta@lemmy.ca 4 points 8 hours ago

No loss. I got talked into joining a Discord group and hated everything about it.

[–] CreativeCider@feddit.org 36 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Download Element.io, create an acount, create your space and rooms, invite your friends.

Leave this fucking mess that's called discord

[–] who@feddit.org 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

And after trying it, if you want to see what alternative client apps have to offer, you can find them here.

[–] Khrux@ttrpg.network 59 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

And everyone please stop using it as a forum for the love of God. I have no use for discord as a platform, but every damn FOSS program asking me to go there for troubleshooting is insanity.

[–] CreativeCider@feddit.org 16 points 13 hours ago

This! It's not a wiki.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 19 points 13 hours ago

Another reason to take down theil

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Fucking obviously duh, of course it does.

Why does anybody give any kind of benefit of doubt to the class of wealthy rapists that run society and most of its institutions?

They're rapists.

They'll rape your money, your data, your attention, your energy, your time, anything they can either groom you into letting them take, or just take it by force.

And/or, if you're 'lucky', they'll just literally rape you physically.

These people are all violent sociopaths and need to be either euthanized or quarantined from society.

Imagine SexPestiny.

There ya go, thats all of these goddamned people.

Machiavellian, manipulative, beyond amoral into just actually evil, not actually very smart, they just happen to have money.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Power corrupts. Ultimate power corrupts ultimately. Story as old as time. That's something the people should understand that think you can cure authoritarianism with authoritarianism, as long as you follow the one true holy book.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Well a lot of those people are just fundamentally taught that anything Sky Daddy does quite literally is the very concept of good and just, and seem to be genuinely incapable of their own independent moral reasoning.

I know because that is how I was raised, good thing I'm more curious and inquisitive than I am blindly faithful.

We've got something around a third of the US that is ready and eager to install some kind of an overt theocracy, if you haven't heard of the Seven Mountains movement/concept look it up.

These people are fundamentally driven by irrational delusions and falsities and lies and obvious logical paradoxes, all plastered over with 'faith' that simply serves as a justification for hatred and bigotry.

I know not all religious people are like this, many of them are much more reasonable.

But we have ya'll qaeda here at home, and they will destroy everything they do not understand if they are not countered.

[–] matlag@sh.itjust.works 114 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Peter Thiel is mentioned over 2000 times in the Epstein files, so now you should wonder if the verification is about acquiring adults data or identifying unattended kids usernames...

[–] hector@lemmy.today 31 points 18 hours ago

Maybe we should start an international boycott and divestment of every person with any ties to Epstein. Any ties, just because the administration blacked out the details and they tell us they only visited the rape island with their family to [insert non rapey reason:] we should boycott everything and everyone involved.

Not just boycott and divest because it's morally abhorrent, but also because they can't be trusted. Someones, multitple parties, are holding information about them that could ruin them. They can weather that they were friends with Epstein, they can't weather the details being released, pictures and video of them raping kids. Israel has the information, the president's own fixers have it now too. Thiel might have it, (both the prez and thiel now have copies of all the information held by federal agencies that they exported with doge now too, you know it,) and russia might have some of it. Other oligarchs could have it, and the rich and connected could buy the information to use it if they wanted to.

Bottom line we can't trust anyone that's compromised. And while a boycott and divestment of people involved might start out small, it would receive instant buy in from the rest of the world. Any company thiel is involved in needs to be boycotted, divested from. Any government hiring his company needs to lose our support.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 9 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

gawker couldve been up to something about thiels businesses pratices before they got sued to the grown.

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[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 133 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (8 children)

The fascist noose is tightening the world over thanks to proprietary big tech. We have to escape now while we can to open-source alternatives.

Currently the best private (encrypted) and federated Discord alternative is Movim, which I highly recommend people switch to as soon as possible (the Dev is currently working on discord-like channels with rooms).

For a more complete guide to swapping proprietary apps for safe open-source ones, I suggest referring to this post: https://slrpnk.net/post/23012609

[–] thethrilloftime69@feddit.online 44 points 19 hours ago (4 children)

Dude I just spent 10 mins trying to get the thing to let me make an account. It kept saying my username didn't fit the format requirements, but then didn't tell me what the format requirements were.

[–] CafeFrog@lemmy.cafe 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Try creating an account here, then use that login to log into the Movim (you can use any XMPP/Jabber account created anywhere to log into any open Movim instance, similar to how any Lemmy user can use their account to login to the Photon front-end).

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[–] RelativityRanger@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

iirc OMEMO doesn't scale well compared to Megolm for large communities

[–] CafeFrog@lemmy.cafe 1 points 17 minutes ago* (last edited 17 minutes ago) (1 children)

I've had very consistant issues with messages not decrypting on Matrix with Megolm, and it's known for leaking a lot of metadata. I'm also not a fan of the Matrix foundation heavily courting law enforcement and getting funded by Israel. I know it's open-source, but combined with the problems I've faced using, the fact that the self-hosting side mostly targets enterprise use, and the heavy resource usage of Matrix when self-hosting, I personally think XMPP is the better option currently.

OMEMO is structured similarly to Signal's encryption. It probably doesn't scale up super well to like, 10,000+ users, but OMEMO can be turned off for super large channels where encryption might not be needed, and turned on for smaller groups where privacy is desired or between friends.

[–] RelativityRanger@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 minutes ago

the Matrix foundation heavily courting law enforcement and getting funded by Israel

Try taking your head out of your arse for five seconds and bring minimal evidence when you make accusations like that lol

It probably doesn’t scale up super well to like, 10,000+ users

So you're confirming my point, you could have refrained from making a fool of yourself

[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Am I supposed to bookmark the website on Android to use Movim?

[–] CafeFrog@lemmy.cafe 1 points 11 hours ago

It's a PWA, so you should be able to open your browser menu and click 'add to homescreen' to make it feel more like a dedicated app.

There are also dedicated XMPP apps for Android and iOS that aren't yet as full-featured as Movim, but are still compatible with the parts that are implemented (usually all the texting and calling parts, but maybe not video or screensharing).

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[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 19 points 17 hours ago

Oh nice, it gets worse!

[–] ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 15 hours ago

The more information gets out about this whole thing, worse it gets.

[–] CubitOom 80 points 22 hours ago (2 children)
[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 14 points 19 hours ago

you mean his puppet master. just like he hides behind his puppets that control LOTR themed companies.

[–] Willy@sh.itjust.works 17 points 21 hours ago (1 children)
[–] frunch@lemmy.world 13 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I can't think of a much weirder duo, tbh

[–] Willy@sh.itjust.works 6 points 17 hours ago

what a world we live In. thiel is smart. Vance isn't even named Vance?

[–] Pratai@piefed.ca 39 points 21 hours ago (11 children)

Watch how many people still keep using this trash.

[–] xtr0n@sh.itjust.works 28 points 19 hours ago

People still use fucking Twitter. I hope people will choose alternatives but I’m not holding my breath.

[–] spiderhamster@midwest.social 11 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

For real. I've provided a matrix instance for people to test to see if it suits their needs and to stress test it to make sure it's reliable at the scale we need. So far it's been great for two of us but I'm afraid the rest are all going to join at the same time, the server won't be able to handle the number of people doing voice and video chats and then they'll hate the whole thing. Other thing they might do is join the main Matrix instance and see how slow it is. That's almost worse.

I'm sorry, you didn't ask for all this info. You said a thing and it made me want to get some stuff off my chest. I almost posted more but deleted it. Then I wrote more and deleted that. I'm just gonna stop now but I feel better now that I've typed some things at a stranger on the internet that I agree with. It's almost like a virtual hug. Hope you felt it too :D

Yeah, I've been drinking. It's Friday somewhere.

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[–] FreddiesLantern@leminal.space 3 points 13 hours ago

Keep em coming so we know what to delete 🫡

[–] marine_mustang@sh.itjust.works 25 points 22 hours ago

Abandon ship!

[–] bajwa1@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

no wonder!

any good alternates?

[–] Marvie@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

I’m trying commet.chat client for now works on matrix and feels like discord

[–] CreativeCider@feddit.org 3 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Tried Matrix with element as a client with friends. Worked flawlessly

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