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[–] RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de 211 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Fighting the Unions in Sweden. Good fucking luck, better prepare to pack your bags and leave.

[–] Ordoabchao@kbin.social 140 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The Nordic countries make up five of the top six most unionized countries, with Sweden being in 3rd place.

Good luck beating them, Tesla! You're gonna need it.

[–] Chariotwheel@kbin.social 105 points 2 years ago (2 children)

As the articles says

Around 90 percent of employees in Sweden are covered by a collective bargaining agreement

And while Tesla doesn't have to fight 90 percent of all employess yet. If they're bringing in strikebreakers all unions must act to not let a prescedence happen.

Not only their own employees would strike, but also employees of suppliers and everything that is connected to Tesla so nothing will reach the company unless Elon personally swings into a truck and drives the stuff into his factories.

[–] CAVOK@lemmy.world 42 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Unionized and in the automotive sector. Would 100% strike in support of the Tesla workers. I'd rather see Tesla leave Sweden than have them succeed in this.

[–] SuckMyWang@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

This is where the game of chicken is. The only question it boils down to is does Elon love winning pointless battles that require self sacrifice or does he love money? It’s a hard question tbh but I think deep down we know he’s a money grub as a priority, in which case he’ll cave and compromise to keep selling cars in Sweden

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 19 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I don't know about Sweden but bringing in scabs is generally illegal in Germany. That is, you can't bring in temporaries, you can, of course, hire more people but then you'll have to keep them, and of course they can strike.

Amazon was quite successful keeping unions out here because the kind of people they employ aren't terribly union-affine, also, noone wants to stay at amazon anyway, but Tesla? A car manufacturer up against IG Metall? In East Germany? Tesla can either cave, leave, or get beaten into submission.

[–] Pancito@lemmy.world 120 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I think they forget the difference between America unions and European unions

[–] Chariotwheel@kbin.social 97 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They always do. Walmart completely running against a wall in Germany is still getting a chuckle out of me.

And Sweden is two steps above Germany in that refard. So good luck to Tesla to not get stomped. I'd wish the unions luck, but they don't need it.

[–] vxx@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

If IF Metall is stronger than the biggest and strongest union in Germany IG Metall, he's fucked.

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 67 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I remember reading once about how James Cameron was all too happy to take millions in tax cuts to film Aliens in England, but then became a little crying bitch when he realized that English unionized workers actually protect their workers. He got mad that they wouldn't work through lunch or breaks, or work in his insane schedule or whims, or do dangerous work. Made me lose a lot of respect for Cameron.

[–] SuckMyWang@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

I didn’t know this. It’s psychotic to expect everyone to be on the same page as the guy who gets most of the credit, rewards and freedom of expression. Especially if you’re only job is to bring the coffee

[–] mumblerfish@lemmy.world 53 points 2 years ago

There was an interview with a swedish spokeperson from tesla published the other day, they had no idea that what they were doing is against laws and contracts

[–] omalaul@lemm.ee 107 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Good. The whole point of a union is to band together and work towards better conditions for all their members.

"But we don't sign those anywhere else!" is not a good argument by Tesla

[–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 26 points 2 years ago

It is a great argument. It shows that there is no point negotiating with them civilally. The only language they understand is force. So the strike needs to be maintained until Tesla ist forced to either agree to the Union contract or give up their factory.

[–] ramble81@lemm.ee 14 points 2 years ago

They are finding the difference between a global corporation vs a multi-national corporation.

[–] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 88 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Tesla seems to be about to learn some hard lessons about workers rights in various EU countries. lol

[–] griD@feddit.de 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They aren't the first and they won't be the last to learn. Another hilarious example was Walmart trying to get into the german market.

[–] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Meanwhile Aldi & Lidl are spreading through the US.

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[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 86 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Do it fash. I fucking dare you.

Our "strikebreakers" will just wreck Tesla's factories like they did Kellogg's.

[–] snooggums@kbin.social 27 points 2 years ago

That is awesome!

[–] venoft@lemmy.world 77 points 2 years ago

Hah! Idiots. Typical Americans, thinking they can just ignore 'the poor people' like they do in the US.

[–] magic_lobster_party@kbin.social 76 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Good fucking luck. Being a strikebreaker is among the most dishonorable things you can be in Sweden.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 14 points 2 years ago

I'm in the US, and if someone I knew was a "strikebreaker" I'd be absolutely disgusted and I'd make that known to them.

[–] Cornpop@lemmy.world 75 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Break them Sweden. Make it so they can never claim they don't sign collective bargaining agreements again.

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[–] Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone 75 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The company is refusing to sign one, IF Metall has reported, saying that company claims that it doesn't sign collective bargaining agreements anywhere in the world.

Well then you fucking should.

[–] ramble81@lemm.ee 50 points 2 years ago

Then don’t do work in Sweden, simple as that.

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 65 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Bring out the strikebreakerbreakers.

[–] tissek@sopuli.xyz 24 points 2 years ago (7 children)

We brought out Anton Nilsson once, then the strikebreaker ship Amalthea got bombed.

See https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anton_Nilson

[–] the_lennard@feddit.de 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Wow, that biography is a wild ride, culminating in "his 100th birthday, during which Anton Nilson himself held a speech lasting for several hours".

Best of luck to the Swedish workers at the Tesla plant in any case.

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[–] Don_alForno@feddit.de 56 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Dear vikings, please rip them a new one.

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[–] Jaccident@lemm.ee 42 points 2 years ago

Tesla opens factory in space, everyone suffocates, Tesla argue β€œwell we don’t need to provide oxygen in other places”…

Chuds.

[–] catboss@feddit.de 40 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Musk is a giant turd, his lackeys and bootlickers are even worse. He representes everything wrong with super rich. People should stop taking his shit and fuck him off whenever the opportunity arises.

I am 100% on the side of the workers and hope they manage to give him the figurative boot.

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[–] fne8w2ah@lemmy.world 36 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Don't let shite 'Murican "ideals" infect the Nordics!

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[–] Wirrvogel@feddit.de 34 points 2 years ago (2 children)

"If they start employing strikebreakers and actively try to break the strike, then they have mobilised the entire union movement against them. Not just the Swedish Trade Union Confederation, but all of them. Then the issue at hand becomes less important."

I can already see the German IG Metall union grinning and looking at the new Tesla factory in Germany. I would be careful if I were Tesla. Unions in Europe are extremely well connected.

I just love the feeling of union collectives banding together. Reminds me of a situation in Norway a couple years back where doctors wanted to strike: Now they're essential workers, and can legally be prevented from striking by the government, so the union collective said "lol get fucked" and put a shitload of engineers from the offshore industry on strike instead. The doctors pretty quickly got what they wanted, and everybody got to see why we have to work together across sectors.

[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 32 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

tf is a strike breaker. A tazer?

[–] Redrum714@lemm.ee 39 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Temp workers that replace the jobs on strike

[–] camelCaseGuy@lemmy.world 65 points 2 years ago (2 children)

You know, most countries that have strike laws forbid this. In Spain, for instance, if the workers are on a strike, the company is forbidden to replace those positions in a strike. Neither with temporary, nor people from other places. And the company cannot fire them. Basically it's a shackle, either you solve your strike or you are out of business.

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 22 points 2 years ago

Good thing Elon has never broken the law in full view of everyone.

[–] Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 17 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Elon should build a factory in Spain. I really want to see how that works out.

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[–] Sidyctism@feddit.de 23 points 2 years ago (4 children)
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[–] ramble81@lemm.ee 26 points 2 years ago

Lieutenant Valeris : 400 years ago on the planet Earth, workers who felt their livelihood threatened by automation flung their wooden shoes called sabots into the machines to stop them. Hence the word "sabotage."

[–] CookieJarObserver@ani.social 25 points 2 years ago

How to get your factory burned to the ground 101

[–] crispy_kilt@feddit.de 20 points 2 years ago

Good luck with that

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