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Thinking Clearly About the Global Authoritarian Movement (talkingpointsmemo.com)
submitted 2 days ago by silence7@slrpnk.net to c/politics@lemmy.world
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The point is that [the global authoritarian movement] will exist no matter what happens to Trump. They command vast economic resources; they run the governments in many countries where the government never changes; they have deep tentacles into the U.S. political system and many of its key players are from the U.S. Trump didn’t create this movement precisely. But his role in global politics over the last decade solidified it as a self-conscious group and congealed it together. Any movement of civic democratic revival in the U.S. will be menaced by its continued existence. Now is the time to think about how a revived and revitalized civic democratic movement in the U.S. could combat it and avoid being destroyed by it.

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[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 35 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don't know about you guys but I'm tired of taking the high road. These fascist pricks have no morals. They know there are lines polite and reasonable people won't cross and they use that to their advantage. They have no such constraints. Every hesitation on our part exposes another crack that they can slip through and avoid consequences. Threats of social repercussions, financial penalties, and prison sentences will not win this fight. The only way this ends is if we take it all the way.

Charge them with treason, execute them, and redistribute their wealth to the people. Anything less will only allow this disease of insatiable greed and lust for power to fester and one day return. Even going that far will only keep such men at bay for a generation or two. It will take constant vigilance and unwavering commitment to the principles of equality and justice to keep them out of power. We got lazy and gave them an opening. If we want to get rid of them we have to be willing to be as ruthless as they are in pursuit of that goal.

[–] ugandan_airways@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

100% agree. There also need to be massive police reforms (college degree minimum), term and age limits for politicians (no one over 65), and ranked voting would be nice.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world -3 points 2 days ago

term and age limits for politicians (no one over 65)

I have yet to see a cogent defense of either of these positions. If there is to be an age limit, 65 is wayyyyy too young already, and bound to become even more anachronistic.

The rest sounds fine.

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Trump is a symptom, not the cause.

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Eh, Not entirely. Trump is a symptom, for sure. But he has also set an example with unexpected political success that has inspired many right wing leaders and candidates into emulating him in ways that they would have otherwise been more reticent to do before.

And like it or not, it has been popular enough that surprisingly far right candidates have found themselves winning elections all over the world. I think the appeal is simply the "reform" aspect of it, the rejection of the recent norms and the status quo that the right finds distasteful, whereas the left has been coasting off the general social progress from the naughties to mid-2010s and so reformist candidates on the left have held less appeal for some. I do not think that so many would have taken such an extreme rightward divergence from the norm all at once without the example that Trump set. He's inspired the right to embrace the far right and avoid centricism except as occasional mouth service when convenient.

That being said, that example has been set and the damage is done. Trump having an aneurysm tomorrow would change very little. The right now realizes that they can utilize cult mentality and vitriol, shift further and further right and sweep elections with it.

A new example needs to be set.

[–] I_Jedi@lemmy.today 2 points 2 days ago

Trump will always chicken out. But his successor might not.

The invasion of Canada is only a matter of time.

[–] stylusmobilus@aussie.zone -3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Excuse my cynicism but this just reads to me as another American distributing blame outside for their election results. Electing him twice.

After he was booted out the first time most of the Anglosphere elected left wing governments. The authoritarian problem is confined to the US, its oligarchs, Russia, Israel and a couple others. It’s getting worse because the big one and it’s people, Americans, refuse to address the problem.