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Linux Mint

If they're only doing web stuff, I'd recommend ChromeOS on a Chromebook+ tbh.

Most users never use anything more than that and web-based apps will be more than enough for what they're likely to use. It's also ideal for those not tech savvy. Plus can use android apps too if needed so it can be used as a big tablet.

But of the 3, I'd probably chose Linux for them. But you'll have to expect to still be the tech support. That's why I say ChromeOS - it's used by kids a lot for a reason

Going to have to go with TOS v1.64

I'm a Windows hater, but I can't in good conscience recommend Mac because of the vendor lock-in, and I'm not going to recommend Linux to someone just needing a computer to use when they need it.

Let's not joke ourselves. I would, however, offer to install Enterprise LTSC and disable as much of the telemetry as possible. After that point, their privacy is in their own hands, but I'll offer as many tips as I can.

If they are even slightly technically inclined and I know them enough to know they are capable of any level of troubleshooting, I'd recommend Mint.

I like Zorin Linux.

I would not wish Window on my worst enemies.

MacOS (less with each release). One of the Linux distros that aims to minimize the "Linux" experience for new users, like Mint. There are others that are also good for new users who don't care what's underneath. I'll let others suggest them as I don't keep track of them all.

Absolutely depends on the use case.

Are they buying a new computer to be a jack-of-all-trades? Simple, they should get either a windows computer or a Mac that suits their needs, depending on what they’re comfortable with and what gets you a better price to quality ratio.

Are they on an old computer of specs that are good enough for today? I’d say either windows or Linux, depending on what software they’ll need to use.

Are they on an old computer of not the best specs? Either Linux or (trigger warning) chromeOS flex, since both can certainly revive an old computer, and this again depends on what they’ll need to use but also what UX they want.

Are they buying something new for a simple workflow? I’d say a Chromebook, sure many of them are shit, but frankly, if all you need is web browsing and maybe some android and Linux apps through the VM containers, it’s actually alright, even despite it being google based vendor lock-in. They also have a decade of support as standard iirc, and if it has issues, the reset functionality is actually incredibly easy.

Bare in mind, all of these have downsides and upsides, different visibility to the general, non tech savvy public, and different hardware, software, compatibility, etc.

I wanna mention this: If there are niche movies/shows you wanna watch but you can't find a torrent for it... the the only way to really watch it is the mainstream sites and those require DRM and if you run Linux, Netflix, for example, would run on L3 Widewine instead of L1 Widewine and that means SD content only...

so yeah... depends on how this "average user" really want to watch niche content... or is even comfortable with the idea of torrents

(I've personally found a bunch of stuff that I literally cannot find torrents for... so yeah... there's that...)

As someone who has used all three (I main my Mac for school, Linux for my gaming PC, and windows for VR gaming)

The answer is either windows or Mac.

Mac if they can afford it, windows if they just want to use it.

Windows. If you do anything work related, you need to be able to use excel and word. It's still annoying shit, but it works and it's more stable/easier to use than linux. I have tried both. I say this with poison spitting out of my mouth, because I don't like the Microsoft AI and forced advertisement shit, but overall, the OS performs better, because desktop linux still has massive problems in 2026.

The linux community may claim that you can "do anything" on a linux system and "make it your own", but if you're not a 24-year-old tech god who can code, it's unfeasible. I tried several times to go on forums and ask for help regarding certain customization changes. Sometimes I got help, but it was very complicated. Most of the time, nobody answered in those threads or if they did, they blamed me for the "problem" and wrote stuff that didn't help at all. At some point you gotta go: Okay, this is nice and everything, but I want to play or work at some point and this is not capable of doing at least one of the two. And there is no official tech support to help you out if you need it. When I simply wanted to create 1 bug report, I had to create 4 different accounts on different bug report websites and they all got closed, because "it's not my department" or - I shit you not - "it's a serious problem and bug, but I don't have time to fix it".

I tried Linux Mint Cinnamon. The installer was so fucking shit, that it didn't recogneize the hard drive and therefore - without warning or telling me where it would install - tried to install itself on the very same USB-stick the install files (.iso) were on, erasing the install files in the process and crashing the entire install, while temporarily bricking the fucking system. The promise of "games are working now on Steam/linux due to Proton compatibility overlay" are greatly exaggerated. I tried starting about 15 games and of those only 2 would even start up. If you would post on the discussion forums, other (linux?) users would just respond with "but it works for me". Well, gosh, thanks you piece of shit, but that doesn't help me identify or fix the problem. And trying to run Word or Excel? "Oh man, you need a virtual machine just to run that, bro! You can't run it natively, because xhgaoohofa. Who even needs that, bro? Use LibreOffice, bro! It's enough, bro!" It's fucking shit. Get it running, I need to work. And your 500 shitty fonts in LibreOffice won't convince anyone that you're a professional. I want fucking Times New Roman and Calibri out of the box, because that's the standard for my office work, sorry.

Using Waterfox was a shit show. It's faster than regular Firefox, but then it proceeded to delete all of my passwords by default every time I closed it, without asking whether I wanted to do that or not beforehand. Then I had to find the fucking hidden option to disable that. I did. But this piece of shit software has a bug. So it ignores that I selected that "hidden" option and continues to delete all my account data and passwords. And linux bros will be like: "Oh, that's your fault, bro! Our linux programs have no bugs, bro [despite it being listed as an official bug on the fucking GitHub page - but they don't read that]! You have to use an external password manager, bro! It's totally safe to insert all your account data into a program from an unknown software developer without back-ups, bro!"

I can't even change the fucking window closing button design in linux mint without changing the theme of the entire fucking system. The buttons on there are MacOS-inspired and fucking tiny. I want easy to click big boxes like on Windows.

I still got that linux laptop, but I rarely use it, because everything is a fucking chore or doesn't work out of the box. The update manager - now that thing is GOOD! But I just want to set it to do update shit automatically and I can't. So every time I use this fucking system, I have to spend my time on authorizing those fucking update installs with my password manually.

Then there is the forking issue. There are 100000000 distros, because the developers are autistic, antisocial shitheads who don't understand that 1 distro with more integrated customization options would be sufficient and more efficient. So they all want their own distro and create a confusing mess where nobody understands what's happening anymore except for a few IT guys who can troubleshoot the shit they're fabricating on a regular intervall. What if I want to work AND game on the same system? I don't want to choose between linux mint and fucking bazzite. I want the functionality of both in one system. That's what Windows has managed to do for over 30 years now. Get your shit together. Same for the support. When I have a problem with the Linux Mint install launcher, I have to be redirected from Linux Mint support to fucking Ubuntu support, because the launcher is actually fucking Ubuntu and then Ubuntu redirects me to a special Ubuntu launcher support site where I have to file another report and then the developers/maintainers there redirect me to their personal GitHub page to file another report with another entirely different bug report form there only to tell me afterwards that s/he has no time to fix it, even though the bug is legit and then CLOSES the bug report. Excuse me, but get 1 (!) support website please and redirect reports INTERNALLY. I will NEVER file a bug report for a linux system again, that I can tell you. Go FUCK yourselves, linux mint developers!

And I don't understand the fucking hype of all these idiots around Steam. Steam is not open-source, it's not free (you have to buy the games with a big fee % for Valve). It's a multi-billion dollar for-profit, closed-system, privately owned company that has said "fuck you" to everyone who wanted Half Life 3 or the next Left 4 Dead for years. Despite having BILLIONS of USD at their disposal to make it happen. Don't get me started on fucking kid gambling with loot boxes and microtransactions in Counter Strike etc. Fuck these idiots! The dominant gaming market and launcher should be free, open source, non-profit and owned by everyone. I don't want to finance another yacht for Gaben. I want to finance more games, compatibility updates, optimized hardware drivers, remasters of retro games and so on.

To be honest, I hate a lot of todays technology industry and I have good fucking reasons for it. Computers were made to make our lives easier, but all they have managed to do is to make many people more socially isolated and working on them more of a chore than the original fucking paper work. Prove of that? You're currently reading a piece of fucking text of a person who you don't know instead of talking to a friend in person. Probably in a darkened room cave so that the light doesn't interfere with the screen brightness.

EDIT: If you downvote my comment, at least have the balls to comment why.

ZorinOS seems pretty good.