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Ahoy mateys!

A few of our users have recently pointed out that a lot of the pro-Zionist accounts on the fediverse nowadays seem to come from the feddit.org instance.

Feddit.org's explanation for this situation seems to fit into a few common variations:

  • They accept both pro- and anti-Zionist members, so it's not proof of a bias.
  • They [choose to] comply [in advance] with strict German / Swiss / Austrian laws regarding [overly broad] "antisemitic" language, or they might get in trouble.
  • Calling for the destruction of Israel must obviously mean you want to kill every last man, woman and child, rather than simply wanting to overthrow Netanyahu's genocidal fascist regime. Because [bad faith] reasons.
  • Lots of Euros (and Germans specifically) are pro-Zionist, so they feel like they have to accommodate this view.

But whatever the excuse happens to be, they need to do better imo. Israel is currently the most violent, fascist and genocidal nation state in the Middle East (if you exclude the US military bases there). And yet feddit.org seems to regard the Palestinians fighting against Israel's ongoing illegal occupation of their land as the real terrorists. As such, I am calling for feddit.org to:

  • Explicitly prohibit pro-Zionist accounts from joining.
  • Take measures to resolve their claimed legal issues, e.g., moving their server location to a less regulated jurisdiction, and ensuring that admin accounts remain anonymous regarding their location.
  • Stop referring to folks who call for "Death to Israel" or similar as though they are the terrorists or violent extremists. The Zionist Israeli settlers, the murderous IDF rapists, and the entirety of the Israeli government are clearly the violent ethnostate extremists we should be worried about, not the Palestinians in Gaza who are fighting for their lives every single day against completely disproportionate levels of Zionist violence.

More context

Our instance already voted to ban pro-Zionist accounts (see https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/60585441 for reference) and the rule that was implemented is here: Golden Rule #8.

As further context, you can find relevant comments and discussion in this post by a banned feddit admin in MoG (that fact they chose to post in MoG is in itself quite telling), and this post about their defederation from quokk.au over anti-semitism allegations has recently become active again.

I've also pulled out some choice morsels from the modlog to illustrate the sort of thing we are talking about:

This one says it all... mrdown@lemmy.world being banned for calling out feddit.org users for being Zionist apologists. It's apparently "xenophobic" to state a few hard truths.

If you have had similar experiences on feddit.org, please feel free to share in the comments.

Voting instructions

I am proposing to ban the following communities from feddit.org, which seem to be the most problematic communities in terms of hosting pro-Zionist posts/comments:

Upvote this post if you want dbzer0 / anarchist nexus to ban these communities.

Downvote this post if you'd prefer not to ban these communities.

Note 1: Votes from external instances do not count, unless one of our admins has vouched for you.

Note 2: If you think feddit.org deserves a full instance ban instead, or have alternative suggestions, then please leave your comments below. If enough people think that's the better option, then we'll do that instead.

Note 3: Although I don't really expect this to happen, if feddit.org agrees to make policy changes to address these issues then we are willing to reassess the situation.

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[–] PotatoPie@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

My first comment on platform, supporting this ban

Usually i'm passive and value balance but seeing how all world is going past 6 months i've never been more ready to take hard stand and actually make any dent i can, this is far from enough

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[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (15 children)

What would we actually be losing in a full instamcd ban?

Im more interested in getting zionazi users off.

Edit: off my feed, not... Fuck

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 month ago (8 children)

Aside from objectively losing access to the communities there not really much, especially considering they ban anyone who goes against Zioninist apologia either for "antisemitism" or they use liberal respectability politics as the excuse to ban them or remove posts.

What we would lose for sure is Feddit users Zionism and Zionist apologia leaking into our instance and we would get no more Zionist apologists from their server coming here to apologize for it and justify it by saying it's "gERmAn LaW".

Really we benefit greatly from it by not getting any more of their Zionism.

They lose quite a bit from it (assuming defederation). They lose access to all of our communities on their instance, none of our users will see their replies, votes from them get bounced as well. If we also do a censure (if we go through defederation I highly recommend a censure) other instances might defederate them too, especially because dbzer0 is very trusted in the space.

Basically they lose a lot more than we lose from cutting them off, and I think it's for the best honestly. Anarchists on Feddit benefit more from being here than they do being homed on Feddit where the Zionist admins can ban their whole account so badly they can't even login because they said something that goes against Instance Zionist policy, or because they didn't follow liberal respectability politics.

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[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I would be opposed to full-defederation, since there is still a lot of good users on feddit. I think removing those communities is a good middle ground.

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[–] BussyGyatt@feddit.org 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)
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[–] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Actually with their response to this being even more Zionazi bullshit, can we please just defed?

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)

@Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com @db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com I agree. While we're here doing this thread Emopunker is out there bad-jacketing the rest of our users and whining that we're even having this discussion in the first place. There is nothing that could benefit from cooperation between Feddit at this point. If Feddit's admins really do think that complaining about us in MeanwhileOnGrad to a Zionist troll who is also an ex Voat user I should add is prodictive, appropriate, or even acceptable. Then why should we even give them any consideration. It's so clear by this point that most people who are here because of what we value do not want to be a part of it. It's also clear the people who want to keep federating with them or who disapprove of the uncivil responses cited in the post do not have our instance's best interests at heart.

Does anyone really think there is anything redeemable about an instance which allows Zionists, who's admins go whine to a troll and lie about another instance's users because they got banned from it and then that instance began considering defederation because of their shitty behavior which is seemingly backed up by the other admins by their refusal to remove or reprimand that admin for their shitty behavior. Is this even worth considering or debating at this point?

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[–] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 month ago

Like they can't seem to stop clowning around in their politically illiterate way, can they?

They continue building their strawmen, and in typical German idiocy, believe their point of view is the enlightened moderate one.

Some of the most annoying people on the planet are German """leftists""" and "progressives". Wait, German "centrists" are even worse, but they don't even pretend to be decent people so they are much less annoying LMAO

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[–] kreskin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)
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[–] Martineski@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] veniasilente@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Shared a meme about the whole situation in Fediverse Memes but apparently it stung a nerve somewhere (can't imagine why), so, 'm sharing it here. Might make a post in another adequate meme channel later if I find one.

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] veniasilente@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 month ago

Will do so in a moment, thanks for the pointer!

[–] monkeyjoe@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

They get very butthurt when you call out their support of genocide.

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[–] MysticMushroom1776@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Have not been here a long time so I'm not familiar with the present day drama but I am the founder of !europe@lemmy.dbzer0.com and was here when that drama was going on. And for that alone I think de-federation or at the very least banning these problem communities is the right call.

I am in agreement with others that the examples here aren't great, some of these do look like aggressive trolling or very aggressive. And if I saw it in my community I would probably remove those too (though I might not ban the people, at least not permanently). Of course I would ban the Zionist apologists completely, and I have in the past in my communities, and its clear feddit isn't doing that. I'm not saying that people are wrong to feel that way, I feel the same way about this bullshit (why I started a Europe community on here), I just do understand why some of those comments were removed. That doesn't apply to all of them though and some were undeniably removed in defense of Zionist apologia.

I hope I don't come across like I'm saying Feddit is right to do what they did, because I don't think that at all. I think their actions are disgraceful and I think they were disgraceful back then too. They might be even more so now since if I'm reading right these were done by an admin this time.

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