Sigh-Fi

The problem isn't that it's "woke", the problem is that the storytelling in New Trek sucks. It's all just flashy effects and dumb characters. Old Trek had really interesting story lines that made you think, New Trek just doesn't have that same spark. It feels corporate and soulless, like someone tore the heart out of the franchise.

Cries at Next Gen now being “old Trek”. Shit I’m old.

Lol

Not laughing, just telling everyone Data's child's name.

Yeah, no

I've never actually heard anyone complain about nutrek being too woke. I've heard MANY complaints that people say that, like this post, but I've never heard a single complaint

What I do hear ( and saw myself) is that nutrek is awfully written CGI drek made by people who self professed don't give a shit about star trek. THATS why we hate it.

Classic trek was fucking progressive, it had many progressive firsts. It wlused stories to make you think about progressive issues while nutrek just "gay good, we progressive"

God, nutrek suuuuucks

If that came out today, they would send death threats to the actors and creators of "Groom Trek".

Reminder that "woke media critique" is just a more sane predictive programming conspiracy theory, with some early figures like Davis Aurini and Paul Joseph Watson liking to put "they're cucking you" conspiracy theories into whatever writing issues they found on the first page of Google search in 2014.

What? You mean the series that had a black man who, in one episode, was given the chance to live in some sort of seemingly perfect world if he chose to get rid of his defining blindness and sight visor thing wasn't woke?

Jokes aside, I only know about that from watching a video weeks ago from a trans person talking about how various loud mouthed right leaning people are calling that new Star Trek Academy and other new stuff woke for some of the dumbest things, like having a Klingon who doesn't want to be a warrior, having fat people on the show ( doesn't help that they're also not white ), and apparently a whole thing about characters wearing glasses in a future where people can choose to fix their vision but choose not to.

Good social commentary is rarely labeled as “woke” by bigoted people, and often flies under the radar despite its inherent wokeness.

A great example of this is the show Justified, and its subsequent reboot Justified: City Primeval.

The original show was incredibly well written and featured plenty of “woke” social commentary surrounding policing, but no one took issue with the social commentary because it was well written. It was a show with complex characters navigating complicated situations, and not some simplistic “good guy cops vs bad guys” story.

On the other hand, the reboot was not nearly as well written or produced (in general, not just wrt the social commentary), but one thing that was especially bad about it was that the social commentary was shoehorned into it so blatantly. It was pretty clearly inserted to pander to a specific audience, and every line of social commentary was pretty much universally phrasings that took you out of the show and left you thinking that such dialogue would never happen in real life. Even if the overall point of the commentary itself was sensible, the actual writing was such garbage that it detracted from the experience of watching the show.

Good social commentary doesnt get labeled as woke because its not hitting people over the head to make a point. Next Generation is filled with that type of quality social commentary. I dont know about new trek, but id imagine people get upset at the “wokeness” because it features the same type of garbage social commentary shoehorning that has become prevalent in a lot of media. Quality writing that makes points on social commentary in a more subversive and plot-centered way has long since become an artifact of the past

I wish Data had been my parent

Wait until he sees the original series. And not even the ham fisted episode about the guys with the black and white faces