Star Trek Social Club

I resent it too. Everything new trek is just star wars western action in space spiced with pure emotions dipped in dystopian.

And the only good thing about DSC (besides saru or what he was named) was bringing us SNW, which is surprisingly good and pike is great.

@Chemo To answer your question: 15 minutes into the show.

DISC did a lot of bad things to Trek just for shock value. But in a utopia there still has to be rules, Burnham committed probably the worst crime in the Trek universe, she disobeyed a direct order, started a mutiny and opened fire on an alien ship, which started a war killing millions. The only reason she got out of prison was because her boyfriend from an evil universe broke her out of prison under false pretenses hoping that since she started a war in this universe that she was just as evil as her counterpart. How messed up is that? Then her redeeming moment is she seized command of the ship and starts a civil war and threatens to blow up another species home world to end the war she started. That's some cowboy shit right there. All because he has unresolved child hood trauma. She deserved to got to federation vacation colony for life.

Kelvinverse would have been great as a big budget sci-fi franchise if it wasn't set in the Trek universe. You can pretty much ignore Kelvinverse movies and pretend that it was just a fun experiment.

SFA and SNW are just trying to undo the mistakes of DISC.

PIC got a lot of things wrong but shared trauma from an unprovoked attack by the Romulans hacking Androids and forcing them to attack people would trigger mass panic and fear that it could happen again, I don't think that's far fetched.

I don't follow Trek as much as I used to.

I'd guess that the problem is that it's hard to come up with stories in a happy world where everyone gets to choose their own path.

So, you jumped on the conclusion that you don’t like any recent Star Trek series, even though you didn’t even try listening more than ten minutes of the first episode of each—while remaining fully biased, yet you insist on criticizing every decision based one whatever you assume all these new series are about, and shit on them, hoping to reinforce your opinion about them.

This is what you sound like: "Huh, so, I opened the book, read the first sentence of the preface, didn’t hook me, so fuck it didn’t read it at all, but let me tell you all how this book is so bad and doesn’t explain anything about what they claim to do, and how they should stick to writing then exactly how they did 60 years ago, just like my grandma used to…"

Do you truly want the answers you claim to seek?

Then how about you actually attentively listen to those entire series in full. You’d be surprised how they might give you more answers than you could possibly imagine.

Stop wasting our time. You want to criticize the new series, at least have the decency to actually watch them first.

Thanks for the warning. Any show that continues Discovery’s bullshit isn’t going to be worth a watch in my opinion.

If you pretend Star Trek stopped after First Contact, it's a lot better. I really don't understand why they keep trying to make new trek, or who is watching it. Who is it for? It's too fast, too action-y. Too many camera angles. The writing and acting feels like teen drama. Where is the professionalism, the decorum, the reserved nature of Starfleet? And what little humor there should be, should be dry.

Star Trek is just a media product now run by business people trying to make it appealing to mass audiences

Besides the awful plots and settings the writing and acting is horrific and as far as I’m concerned Star trek is over and academy is just fanfiction slop