I watched The Apprentice when I was a teenager. I seem to have blocked out my memory of how I felt about Trump back then but my aunt says I used to think he was funny. I remember the opening tricked me into believing he was a good businessman (I was a teenager and this was my first introduction to him). I wouldn't say I viewed him as a hero but I guess I liked him as a celebrity. Now he's ruined countless lives. It was the birther conspiracies that made me start to dislike him.
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Many already mentioned. Steven Seagal, Ultimate Warrior, Dennis Miller
Oh no, don’t take The Ultimate Warrior from me…
Shit, like half of 'em. The other half just died, like decent folk.
would not say "hero", but I did like a lot of Michael Jackson's music when I was younger.
let's not pretend he didn't do anything just because he could settle/pay off everything ...
For me it was the other way around. I was a kid when the only thing he was in the news for was that he had to go to court again. Only later I found out why he even was famous and that he had a lot of good music.
That Bill Cosby guy...
Honestly liked the Cosby show, and even his standup. Was very disappointed when I heard.
Emir kusturica was my nr 1 director since forever until I found it he works for Putin now.
Black Cat White Cat and Underground were my favorite movies.
WHAT?? No.... And I saw him live with his band, The No Smoking Orchestra. Turns out I'm never listening to them again
More by extension. My dad was a huge Joe Paterno / Penn State football fan. He thought very highly of Paterno as a coach, and leader. I was baffled when it broke just how much he had ignored. Just so cowardly and evil, allowing that man to rape and abuse so many kids so his football team wouldn't look bad in a headline or two.
I don't know that Tim Sweeney is a horrible person, but he's said some irresponsible things recently.
And I understand that Kirby Puckett became something of a louse after his athletic career ended.
Bill Cosby, fersure..
but there's a musician called Paris, and I don't know if he became horrible,
but he definitely seemed to have lost it, & gone over to the dark-side, at 1 point..
Black musician, switched from calling out shit to just pushing more darkness.
NOT like Disposable Heroes of Hiphoprisy, or the main guy from Public Enemy Number One, who ( that I know-of ) held-to positive/proactivity..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_(rapper)
Actually, I think all ideologues go in the bin, now, in my view..
IF anyone pushes ideology instead of objectivity/correct-reasoning/evolving-worldview-to-match-evidence/spirituality, THEN .. they're just pushing their-own ideology's totalitarianism, & not outgrowing ideology-the-category.
After the dictatorship-tippingpoint gets crossed by Trump, & the mass butchery of Civil War Part2 begins, then that'll make more sense.
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Bill Nye
I used to look up to him, and met him at an astronomy symposium once. (About one of my actual heroes, Galileo!)
I dunno, he's not horrible, he was just like, so obviously pissed that people recognized him and wanted autographs and a picture lol.
I kinda understand, and he had the patience to put up with it. He wasn't outright mean to me or anything, but geeze man, you don't gotta so obviously display contempt for the kids who will be carrying the torch because you inspired them.
Anyway, I forgive him. Was just a little disappointed.
I feel his frustration at sharing the world with a lot of stupid people, but he's another one of those science communicators like Tyson, who get to a point where they get smarmy and smug and holier-than-thou.
Like damn, maybe we could be on a similar level if we could get paid to learn things too, sirs.
I'm still not sold on this one. He may not be the nicest person, he may even be a jerk sometimes, but I don't think calling him horrible is fair either in that regard.
Unless you're a conservative and now hate science as an adult, then I can see why those people might call him horrible.
Yeah we're in a thread with Joss Whedon, Cosby, and Elon. I know I've lost patience with people, I don't think we need to go and lump something as small as this in with those assholes.
I guess religious leaders? Genocide between religions put a hamper on that quickly.