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[–] spudwart@spudwart.com 108 points 2 years ago (5 children)

No. Stop.

This is the definition of interrupting your enemy when they're making a mistake.

Let them kill windows 10, I have atleast 5 friends ready to switch to linux when Windows 10 hits EOL.

[–] Diplomjodler@feddit.de 7 points 2 years ago

I have Linux on all my machines except one crappy old laptop that had Windows 10. When they EOL Win10, I'll have to buy another one like that for those rare occasions when you need to run something that just won't work in Linux.

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[–] Romkslrqusz@lemm.ee 61 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Based on my conversations with my clients, it seems like the 2025 date is going to result in the greatest Linuxing of all time.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 33 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

as an avid multi-decades linux desktop user who has worked at a company with people in it before, i believe there is no way in fuck that this is true.

[–] Damage@feddit.it 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Yeah, I work in industrial automation and I don't see how it could be possible

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[–] Romkslrqusz@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You’re right in that this isn’t true of your typical working folks who use Microsoft 365, Sharepoint, or specialized design software.

There are a lot of folks who just use their computer for a web browser. When you tell them that their hardware, some of which is as young as 2017, will lock them out of security updates in two years, they’re pretty receptive to alternatives like ChromeOS or Linux.

For some of the older population, the simplicity of such options is a huge perk.

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[–] Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 8 points 2 years ago

The year of the Linux desktop is upon us. The prophecy has been foretold by the sages of the code. A new dawn is on the horizon. A new era of freedom an power approaches as more and more disks are cleansed by the mighty forces set free by Stallmann and Torvalds. No more shall the users be enslaved by proprietary software and restrictive licenses.

The Year of the Linux Desktop is upon us, and nothing can stop it.

[–] weedwhacking@lemmy.world 58 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Everyone knows Microsoft OSs are tick-tock anyway. The failed 11 will be superseded by a well received 12, and the cycle will continue. Can’t kill 10 until 12 is fully accepted. Like 10 and 7 before it.

[–] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 36 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I find this funny as I remember the first 5 years of Windows 10 be like everyone hates it because it's not Windows 7

[–] BudgieMania@kbin.social 31 points 2 years ago

Well it was replacing the tile-silliness of Windows 8, any OS that booted would receive some goodwill in comparison

[–] kuneho@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

before 10, on 8.1 everyone was the same with 10, that it will be the next Vista, by the same logic that XP was OK, Vista was NOK, 7 was OK, 8 was shit, 8.1 was OK...

don't forget, for several years, 10 was unuseable and lots of people - including me was not willing to use it.

for a few years, 11 will be the devil but soonly enough the migration will happen - it has to, if someone needs Windows...

[–] isles@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (5 children)

10 became usable when they walked back most feature changes and made it closer to 7. I had completed blocked out the awful start menu at 10 launch.

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[–] Romkslrqusz@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

failed 11

By what metric (other than clickbaity tech publication headlines)?

Every Windows release, even including “the good ones”, my repair shop has been inundated with requests to go back or post-upgrade troubleshooting work.

We’ve had none of that since 11’s release. The only botched upgrades were due to underlying hardware conditions and everyone else has been neutral at worst.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Have any of the other relases had a hardware requirement that even 3 year old PCs don't meet? I just built my PC in 2020 and win11 is telling me I can't upgrade because of my basically new hardware...

My bet is on many many people simply can't upgrade.

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[–] festus@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I actually like 11 compared to 10 (so far as I like Windows in the first place - I only use it on my work-provided computer, Linux everywhere else). People rightly complain about the advertising and tracking for why they won't upgrade but doesn't 10 have that too?

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[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 44 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Don't really care. Once this PC can't run Windows 10 anymore, it's getting Mint.

I've recently come to realize all of the games I actually like to play, run just fine on Linux. YMMV, of course.

[–] Senex@reddthat.com 10 points 2 years ago

My next computer will be Mint and open source programs.

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[–] cryptix@discuss.tchncs.de 43 points 2 years ago (1 children)

As someone once told , windows 10 would be that last version of windows.(I like to keep it that way , at least for me😅).

[–] smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de 31 points 2 years ago

That someone was Microsoft 😆.

[–] Adalast@lemmy.world 38 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I remember Microsoft saying that Windows 10 would be the last version they would ever release and everything moving forward would just be iteration and improvement. Knew that was a lie immediately.

[–] Metz@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Microsoft never said that. Its a myth that refuses to die. A single developer on a conference mentioned something as a sidenote, the press misinterpreted it and the internet took it and ran with it.

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[–] regbin_@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Windows 11 is just Windows 10 23H2. It's just a number. Nothing stops MS from dropping support for older processor in an update for Windows 10.

[–] rikonium@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

We had petitions for everything, Windows Phone, you name it a decade ago. That won’t do jack shit unless it somehow comes with some large sum of money (how much? who knows) for Microsoft or some bean counter decides “hmm, maybe the environment shouldn’t take another for the team” and gets the company to change course before they are canned.

In the meantime, let’s continue to plot our off-ramps.

[–] bleistift2@feddit.de 23 points 2 years ago

Never mind the millions of PCs that don’t want to downgrade to this garbage.

[–] elouboub@kbin.social 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)

A nonprofit group has sent a petition to Microsoft, urging it to extend the end-of-support date for Windows 10 beyond 2025 to prevent “the junking” of millions of PCs.

"junking". Install linux on it you mugs!

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago

Yup, putting this date on my calendar as the last time I'll own a Windows machine.

[–] SirStumps@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago

I've been using Windows 11 for a while now and honestly I don't understand the hate. Who needs personalized functionality? Who needs to be able to move their bar from screen to screen? I do. I'm moving to Linux.

[–] Reality_Suit@lemmy.one 15 points 2 years ago

I'm not buying another windows OS.

[–] LogicalSpace@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

I use Ubuntu for pretty much everything, but I would prefer to use 10 in the unfortunate event that I have to boot into Windows.

[–] dlok@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

Not supporting intel 7th gen and back seemed pretty strong handed, even now they're still decent processors.

And I know there are work-arounds but not for the average consumer

[–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Trouble is, to upgrade I'd need to do a mobo upgrade, and I'm not doing another mobo upgrade any time soon.

Windows 10 wasn't great compared to 7, but I bit the bullet on that one because security updates are essential these days, and my workplace is microsoft-centric.

Windows 10s death is going to force a lot of poorer folks to consider alternatives - and let's be honest, it's going to be Linux. The majority of hardware out there in the world can't run 11, let alone a proposed 12.

[–] pycorax@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Windows 10s death is going to force a lot of poorer folks to consider alternatives - and let’s be honest, it’s going to be Linux. The majority of hardware out there in the world can’t run 11, let alone a proposed 12.

For the more technically strong people, I can see that happening but I very much doubt the general public would do that. They probably don't even know what Linux is.

[–] alienangel@sffa.community 5 points 2 years ago

Yeah less savvy people are going to do what they always do, just keep running their old system but now with even more vulnerabilities due to lack of security update availability.

My dad recently asked me to help with his laptop, which turned out to be running windows xp.

After a lot of hair pulliing I got it kind of working but am gonna give him an old windows 10 (upgraded from 7) laptop, but he's probably going to be on that indefinitely.

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[–] _dev_null@lemmy.zxcvn.xyz 13 points 2 years ago

"No"

\ - MS

[–] BudgieMania@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The Windows XP/Vista story repeated to the last letter, damn

Windows 11 will be relegated to a footnote in Wikipedia

[–] hagelslager@feddit.nl 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

At least Vista wasn't Millennium, I had to Photoshop on that for nearly two years and regularly had to reboot during the workday.

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[–] MrSilkworm@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Hopefully by 2025 gaming in Linux will be greatly improved even more. Until then I'll keep using Windows 10 and I'll start saving for an AMD card

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[–] jigsaw250@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Well, looks like it may be time to try and see what Linux is all about. Any good recommendations for a relatively Out of the Box experience?

I mostly just browse the web and play games (both single player and multiplayer, mostly AAA but also the occasional indie). On occasion, I also like to do some video editing in Davinci Resolve.

[–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 5 points 2 years ago

Linux Mint in the Cinnamon flavor is one of the most beginner-friendly and also has a desktop very similar to Windows.

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[–] Smacks@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Because petitioning a company works, yeah

[–] 0x0@programming.dev 8 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I'll stick to XP, 7 and 10 in my VMs then.

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[–] Reptorian@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I would switch to Linux anyway. Does any one knows if SOLIDWORKS and Rhino can work in Linux? I know Maya can, and I only use that as a pipeline to convert NURBS to polygon whenever it is needed.

Krita should get better selection tool for foreground extraction, and it would be very easy to forget Affinity/PS as filters are easier to make with C++ there. No plans to use GIMP, so don't bring it up.

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