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[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 183 points 1 week ago (5 children)

It is pretty funny that as advanced as our technology gets, we're still basically just at the higher end of the "steam engine" phase.

[–] drzoidberg@lemmy.world 117 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I explained this to my oldest when he learned about the steam engine and how cool it was. When I told him it was the peak in power he was like "but we have nuclear and gas" and I told him that nuclear power is basically just a super charged steam engine, and nuclear rods boil water better than coal or gasoline, but it's basically a steam engine. I went over how gasoline in cars was basically the same, but instead of steam, it used tiny explosions. We watched a few how it's made type videos.

[–] tomiant@piefed.social 56 points 1 week ago (2 children)

But I don't WANT to boil water, I want ELECTRICITY. Like, future electricity!

[–] mxeff@feddit.org 114 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Nooooo! I want different electricity. Not calculator electricity.

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[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago (12 children)

We're honestly almost past that at this point. Solar is devouring the world. Total global electricity production capacity is about 10 TW. China is currently producing 1 TW of panels annually. And the panels are still getting better and the prices are still dropping. We will quickly reach the point where the vast majority of global electricity production is solar, and everything else is a rounding error.

There just isn't going to be any reason to build fusion plants. Maybe in the distant future colonies in the outer solar system and beyond will use them. But for anything inward of Mars, solar is the way to go. Solar+batteries is already, in 2026, the cheapest form of baseload power available. Material limitations are not a problem with modern battery chemistries. Daily swings in power demand will be solved by batteries. And we simply won't have to worry about seasonal power swings. We'll build enough solar panels to meet all our winter needs. We'll build enough to power our cities during the coldest, cloudiest months. And then the rest of they year we'll have super-abundant dirt cheap power.

The future is one of vast energy abundance. We're going to find all sorts of ways to use energy that we've never even dreamed of before - mostly to take advantage of the abundance of dirt cheap energy we'll have during all but the coldest months.

The days the steam engine are numbered. With the exception of remote polar outposts, everything's going solar. It's simply the cheapest most abundant form of energy we've ever discovered. Nothing can match it.

[–] call_me_xale@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I still think nuclear (probably fission rather than fusion) has a place, at least in terms of materials and land usage. It's just obscenely efficient in terms of energy per resource investment. Solar generation requires square miles of space and hundreds of tons of materials to match the output of a single reactor.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

The US can provide for far more than its total electricity usage, with just the land area we currently use to grow corn for ethanol. You can put solar panels on parking lots, over roads, on train tracks, on rooftops, etc. You can even use the same land for both solar panels and growing certain crops. It's called agrivoltaics. And that's before you even get into panels in deserts, floating on water, etc.

There simply isn't a shortage of land for solar. Unless you're talking about tiny city-states, there just is no shortage of land needed for electric purposes. Land usage just isn't a significant factor. Yes, land footprint is an advantage nuclear has, but it's an advantage that really doesn't matter much in the real world.

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[–] call_me_xale@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Turns out heat engines are like... pretty good at turning arbitrary energy sources into useful work! Who knew!

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[–] A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl 104 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (8 children)

Yeah about that.

Those are termosolar powerplant, they use the sun to boil water and spin a turbine.

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Why do I have an overwhelming urge to climb that

[–] Hedup@lemmy.world 43 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You know if you're a moth, you can just fly up there.

[–] humble_boatsman@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 1 week ago

BRotHeR i cRaVe foR tHe ForBiDDen liGhT

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[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (9 children)

Better solar power extractor.

[–] Fleur_@aussie.zone 9 points 1 week ago (12 children)

If you think about it coal fired power plants are also solar powered 🤔

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[–] agentTeiko@piefed.social 20 points 1 week ago

Its even more metal they heat salt that heats water to spin the turbine. This keeps the power generation well after sun down.

[–] T156@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (14 children)

Although they're falling out of use these days, both because they're not very environmentally friendly on account of being instant bird death-rays, and also because regular solar panels are cheap enough that it's not worth it to make a big thermosolar plant.

[–] untorquer@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Habitat destruction, air pollution, and pesticides are unfathomably worse for birds.

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[–] ZoteTheMighty@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Ahkshually, those tend to boil salt...which is later used to boil water.

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[–] testaccount372920@piefed.zip 55 points 1 week ago

Solar panels are all nice and stuft, but what about some boiled water?

[–] Silly@discuss.tchncs.de 32 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Fun Fact: Since 2006-2007 Uruguay’s power infrastructure has mostly relied on green energy, making up over 90% of their power infrastructure, also making them fully self sustaining power wise

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[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (16 children)
[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

All that yet microwaves still leave my burrito frozen in the center.

[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Gotta lower the power setting and increase the cook time. One minute at 100%? No! One and a half minutes at 80%!

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

also, offset from the center of the microwave on the spinny plate. centered will only get you a portion of the waveform, moving the food around through a larger cross-section of the waveform = more thoroughly cooked stuff.

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[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 21 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Now we just need solar boilers.

To boil water.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think thats the plan right? Steam turbines i mean...

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[–] snoons@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 week ago (3 children)

ACKSHUALLY we're going to put special solar panels inside the reactor.

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 24 points 1 week ago (2 children)

And then use the solar panels to power a water boiler.

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