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[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 187 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Good. Eat shit.

You guys had your chance. Instead you shoved giant fucking trucks and SUVs down our throats while telling us we didn't want good, small, electric cars. I hope you all choke to death.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 52 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I... I was trying to disagree. But you're making it damn difficult.

Maybe they can eat a dick.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 week ago

No, don’t reward bad behavior. They can eat Trumps unwashed asshole.

[–] SparroHawc@lemmy.zip 32 points 1 week ago

As an American...

Say it louder for those in the back.

[–] IronBird@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

sadly, "too big to fail, lets bail em out on public $"

[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Good. It'll just hasten the collapse.

China's got an overcapacity of affordable cars people want, and the US will have an overcapacity of unaffordable cars nobody wants, and we can see which is the better problem to have.

Unfortunately, the US's cars will become write-offs for the companies, the rich will suffer nothing, and they'll become rusting landfill waste like Atari 2600 copies of ET.

[–] daq@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Government subsidized is not the same thing as affordable. As soon as they are embedded, prices will go up.

Just look at Korean manufacturers in US. Some Hyundais/Kias are more expensive than Toyotas. They used to be a great cheap alternative.

Difference is Koreans actually build high quality cars and Chinese build quality is debatable.

I have to say though, the faster Tesla fucking burns, the better. Nazi trash can go fuck himself.

https://www.business-standard.com/companies/news/byd-ev-sales-profit-decline-cash-burn-2025-china-125110300804_1.html

[–] halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 26 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Difference is Koreans actually build high quality cars and Chinese build quality is debatable.

If the Kias I've driven are any indication... No they don't.

You also do realize that the Chinese make good stuff too right? It's not just the random brands you see on Temu and Amazon. It's the same brands you recognize already. Every Apple device for the past 25+ years is Chinese. Every component, every step of manufacturing, every human touch along the way. They're only designed in California.

China just has an excess of manufacturing capability, because they make everything for everyone. Hell, a lot of "counterfeit" and "knock-off" merchandise rolled off the same exact factory line as the name brand. The factories continue running manufacturing lines after hours to produce excess that gets sold on the grey market, and they also send the stuff that fails quality testing to the grey market.

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[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

China making bad quality stuff is an outdated stereotype. I hate to sound like I'm a China fanboy because I'm not, but it's really undebatable; they're the future now.

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[–] thejoker954@lemmy.world 101 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Its not bad for consumers.

It's only bad for the country because it's owned by the corporations.

It is bad for greedy corporations.

[–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 94 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Our national neighbors to the north have already caved, setting off alarm bells in some U.S. operations, and now NADA is hoping to amplify that warning.

Fuck off you Yankee cunts. Go fuck yourself through both ears with a rusty chainsaw.

"Caved"!? You mean "are purchasing higher quality vehicles for lower prices" means "caving" these days?

Seriously. Fuck all the way off.

[–] Hayduke@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I’m trying, but my government keeps moving the goalposts on how far I need to fuck off. It’s beginning to get exhausting.

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[–] dellish@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago

Apparently "capitalism" and "market pressure" only work when it's in the USA's favour? The USA should be proud of Canada for acting exactly like capitalists! They are opening the market and letting the best suited and best priced item win. Isn't that the whole point of the system?

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 77 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 1 points 6 days ago

But but but but but go woke go broke?!

[–] protist@mander.xyz 69 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The car dealer lobby can go fuck themselves. How much cheaper would cars be already with no middle man using high pressure sales tactics

[–] glibg@lemmy.ca 36 points 1 week ago

Not to mention the lobbying against robust transit options, and for car-centric city design. The personal automobile is marketed as freedom but in reality it is an expensive infrastructure ball & chain

[–] Cort@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Yeah Tesla and Rivian skipped the dealership model, but their pricing isn't any lower. Arguably higher, especially long term when you include repair costs.

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[–] DGen@piefed.zip 61 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (14 children)

Well. In Germany we say "Der Markt regelt das". Translated: economy speaks for itself. <- Ironically spoken

Like it or Not. China made it. They will also flood Europe/EU soon. I'm not mad, when they can, they should. This is our beloved capitalism.

One German politician warned car companies that they need to make affordable EV. They didn't listen and still don't.

Edit: Added "<- Ironically spoken" to first sentence to make clear how I was meaning it.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (8 children)

One German politician warned car companies that they need to make affordable EV. They didn't listen and still don't.

Being an Asian having grown up in Europe, I can say that Westerners have a short term, profiteering mindset. We think too much if the earnings for the next quarter will keep the shareholders happy. There is no long term planning and vision. I find Western businesses afraid of leaving their initial core industry, even if that industry is going the way of the dodos like fossil fuel cars.

I can't exactly assess Chinese industries much, but Japanese businesses are excellent and unafraid with diversifying away from their initial offerings, and reaching out to a completely separate field. Nintendo was a card manufacturing company but is now a videogame titan. Fujifilm went from photo and film to biotechnology. Sony just recently eked out to finance and investing. Western companies don't really do this, but instead waste money by fighting tooth and nail to keep dying businesses alive. Western companies are obsessed with making money now, while East Asian companies prioritise existence.

[–] Kage520@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (3 children)

And they miss obvious things too. How did Sears, a company that became famous and hide by offering magazines to show the cost of their goods to everyone before that was a thing, lose to an online bookstore? How did a video rental place (Blockbuster) not see the obvious benefit of mailing DVDs and then later internet streaming and get beat by a no name company like netflix?

Probably exactly as you say. It would have cost a year or two of missed quarterly earnings as they entered new markets, so they missed the opportunities entirely.

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[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Nintendo was a card manufacturing company but is now a videogame titan. Fujifilm went from photo and film to biotechnology. Sony just recently eked out to finance and investing

Hitachi makes consumer electronics and heavy industrial construction machinery.

But somehow Ford can only make F150s and Mustangs any more...

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This is our beloved capitalism.

That's sort of the joke. We are living in the IRL equivalent of people complaining Communism is OP in Victoria 3.

"What do you mean you're leveraging a highly efficient network of state owned enterprises to obtain materials and utilities nearly at-cost?! That's cheating!!!"

China has ten highly productive and innovative EV companies in a bloody knuckled price war because it's state government makes starting and growing auto plants artificially cheap and easy.

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[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The funny thing is the "True" Americans think a capitalism free market is absolute peak. They say well if it was a TRUE capitalism free market it would be perfect. Its because of the state we have issues! No you idiot, its because of billionaires which capitalism by design creates.

They say this while using government to prevent import of superior vehicles, just like they did for Japan in the 90s (chicken tax anyone?)

Socialism for the rich. Rugged individual capitalism for the 99%.

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[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 54 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Greed, lack of standards and sub-standard vehicles finally caught up with them.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They've been so busy downsizing their workforce, they forgot how to make a car under $40k

[–] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

And isn't the size of a main battle tank

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)
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[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 52 points 1 week ago

Yes, it's bad for you. Selling new cars for over 60K on average has been very good for you.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 48 points 1 week ago (1 children)

lol if the US dealer system is part of what dies in this era of shit that we’re in, I’m calling that as a fucking HUGE silver lining.

[–] BanMe@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I thought Tesla was going to change things a little bit but it turns out they were only interested in fucking kids

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[–] wampus@lemmy.ca 46 points 1 week ago

Maybe American autodealers should've made cheaper cars and not relied on monopoly-like status and government protections manipulating the market.

Also, maybe American's shouldn't have been such cunts to their neighbours. I mean, they throw a big Trump diaper at Canada and Mexico, start demanding all the car companies shut down plants and shit, wtf did they expect Canada and Mexico to do exactly?

[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 1 week ago (5 children)

The dealership system is garbage. Let the battle begin.

Say what you will, but I'll take BYD over Tesla any day.

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[–] TheSeveralJourneysOfReemus@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Our national neighbors to the north have already caved

I don't recall China threatening to annex, use military actions, damage the economy or using other means to destabilise the region, or be hosting towards Canada. That came from the big neighbour down the South. No wonder Canada is more open to other trade routes.

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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

FAFO fascism is wack idiots

[–] redbrick@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

LOL...bad for consumers? Really....evolution has never been about survival of the fittest...

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

Fuck car dealers. The entire dealer system has spent most of a century earning worse than this.

[–] etherphon@midwest.social 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Well, maybe they should try to make cars again instead of just giant impractical trucks and SUVs. I love hatchbacks and I used to love driving but now I can't see a damn thing on the road because every vehicle is 2x as tall.

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[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Why are dealers complaining? Could they not simply deal those Chinese EVs?

I'd expect US automakers to complain, but unrightfully so, because their products are inferior.

[–] Sludgeyy@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A- 10,000 dollar car

B- 50,000 dollar car

Intrest is 5-15% (depending on credit score)

6 years loan

Interest paid over loan:

5% A- $1,595 B- $7,977

15% A- $5,224 B- $26,122

If the dealership sells a 50k car they can get 6.5k-21k more money than if they sell a 10k car.

They want to sell you the most expensive car they can

So even if they could sell you the "cheap" Chinese EVs they would make less profit

This is just one reason. Sales margin is another. When you're a Ford dealership and get special treatment from Ford you have higher profit margins. If you just flip a Chinese EV with no special treatment you have lower margins.

If there was a solid 10k car available less people would buy the 50k car (average cost of a new car today)

Inexpensive cars on the US market is not good for dealerships in anyway

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[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

It’s so few cars that it won’t make a difference.

They’re also tariffed to not offer a discount.

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[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

It took me an embarrassing number of seconds to realize this headline was talking about car dealers.

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