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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago (2 children)

They're executing white American citizens 1300 miles from the southern border.

This isn't about immigration.

It's about intimidation in order to illicit a response so they can assume total control. Because they are fascists.

[–] WesternInfidels@feddit.online 17 points 1 week ago

Noun

terrorism (usually uncountable, plural terrorisms)

  1. The use of unlawful violence against people or property to achieve political objectives.
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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There’s that ~30% idiot floor, once again.

[–] uienia@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (3 children)

That one-third of the population who gets to choose who rules the entire country.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

That one-third carries guns and flags. Which as much as it makes us cringe, it carries with it political capital. The same kind of political capital that has shaped political landscapes for centuries or millennia.

We need to meet power with power, and shed this idea that civility and proceduralism is somehow inherent to democratic society. I would love to see the day my progressive allies pick up assault rifles and drive around with American flags stuck all over their trucks (or Subarus.)

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[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

1/3 of the country is regular sensible people

1/3 of the country is literal fascists who worship Hitler second to Trump

1/3 of the country is too stupid to know the difference

[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

1/3 of the country don't really pay attention to anything if it doesn't affect them directly.

The biggest drama in my family is how my uncle failed to pay child support and now has to go to court. They only recently learned about ICE like a week ago, even though they've been in the news in my city for the past year.

At my night classes, someone brought up Epstein and a student my age said that she thought it was released a few years ago. I don't think she's stupid. She has like 5 kids and was attending night school for more job experience.

I won't be surprised if the Superbowl will be the first time a large percentage of Americans even learn about ICE.

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

The American education system failed us by design

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

At my night classes, someone brought up Epstein and a student my age said that she thought it was released a few years ago. I don't think she's stupid. She has like 5 kids and was attending night school for more job experience.

Yep, so much of people yelling about "stupid" voters is victim blaming people experiencing poverty and the US's lack of social safety nets

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

I know through studies of the economic anxiety that the poor have, which led them to elect the populist right, but I didn't personally feel it until I lived close to an underprivileged area. They do not get support from the government, and any social housing is blocked by the property-owning middle and wealthy class, because it brings down the property values. As a result, the poor are made to compete for limited resources with migrants, who themselves are victims of imperial capitalism through foreign interventions and environmental exploitation, leading to climate change and its resulting economic decline of the land prompt people to move. The competition for resources makes both locals and migrants go at each others throats, while the rich are laughing their way to the banks with the wealth pickpocketed from the rest of us.

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[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

A lot of people don't know about ICE because of personal distractions, but also the hyper-personalisation of mass media cooped all of us into our own bubble, which gives us information blindspot. We don't really watch TV anymore, so we no longer share the same sources of information. Most people these days use social media for news, but the algorithm of social media curates our desires, which then forces us into a tunnel vision. Hence, we each live in different sets of reality, seeing only what the social media shows us.

But on the one hand, and I don't know what to make of it, people genuinely switch off from the news because it makes them depress. I understand where they are coming from, but being completely cut off from news is just silly. A friend of mine did not even know about Trump threatening to take over Greenland.

[–] WonderRin@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Perhaps a dumb question, but I'm not from the U.S, so a genuine question here: Why might the Superbowl be a way for a lot of Americans to learn about ICE?

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Because they've announced that ICE will have a presence at the Super Bowl, and nobody can understand why. Is it really necessary to show up and harsh the buzz of everybody who is spending a fortune to have a good time? I suspect it's in retaliation for Trump not being able to attend because they know he'll be booed mercilessly, and perhaps even be a target for assassination. So they'll send ICE to get some airtime, and intimidate the rest of America.

There are also plans to send ICE to Italy for the Winter Olympics, which is an even weirder idea.

I would imagine the idea is to demand a contingent go to the Super Bowl and the Olympics, and then give the assignments out as rewards for the leaders and the soldiers who have been the biggest assholes.

It kind of reminds me of Gimme Shelter, the documentary about how the Rolling Stones allowed the Hells Angels to be the "security" at their big tour ending concert, and the bikers got really violent, and ended up murderering a guy right in front of the stage as the Stones were playing. I can't wait for ICE to start beating people in front of the cameras at the Super Bowl or the Olympics. That should go over big.

Obviously, ICE has far too much money.

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[–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

One third are fascists then.

[–] tomi000@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Two thirds? Holy shit that country is fucked in the head.

[–] QuandaleDingle@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

It's real funny how that just about lines up with the "27% of voters are stupid" metric.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

The other third couldn't say anything beyond enthusiastic gagging sounds while swallowing a boot past the laces, a feat both impressive and concerning.

[–] vegeta@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (3 children)

and 89% of the GOP views trump favorably. We are so horribly broken , I've given up trying to make sense of this. Are there really this many bad people in this country, they can't all be gullible cult members?

[–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

It's not gullibility; the reactionary right want to oppress the people they hate. It's White Christian Supremacy.

It's similar to the KKK: they weren't tricked into being hateful pieces of shit, they just are. Sure, a big part of that is that their culture is rotten with fundamentalism and anti-intelectualism, but those are cultivated and flourish because they're helpful to the cause of being hateful pieces of shit.

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I'd say it isn't just similar to the KKK, it is the KKK. The Dems effectively kicked those losers out of their party by the early 1960s, but then oligarch Republicans who had been losing elections since the 1930s because the Great Depression so thoroughly discredited their laissez faire nonsense invited them in by running Barry "I think civil rights is a states rights issue" Goldwater for president, and that anti-social and destructive political coalition has been fucking shit up for everyone ever since.

e; forgot word

[–] blueworld@piefed.world 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Think of it less as bad people, than individuals drawn into self-reinforcing belief systems through algorithmically amplified echo chambers. Modern technology—primarily smartphones and platforms like Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram, but also cable news (Fox/NewsNation) and podcasts—systematically exploits cognitive biases such as confirmation bias and correlation neglect to isolate users from dissenting viewpoints. This creates environments where belief and exclusivity override rational discourse, mirroring historical patterns where economic distress fueled extremism.

Just as post-WWI Germany’s hyperinflation and reparations under the Treaty of Versailles bred widespread anger and desperation—enabling extremist movements like the Nazis to gain traction by scapegoating minorities—today’s algorithmic ecosystems channel similar frustrations into polarized identity politics. Users aren’t merely "gullible"; they’re trapped in feedback loops where platforms prioritize engagement over truth, reinforcing preexisting narratives while filtering out complexity. This isn’t unique to the U.S.: Brazil’s Bolsonaro movement, France’s National Rally, and Italy’s Brothers of Italy all leverage these dynamics to mobilize bases through emotional appeals to victimhood and exclusion.

The core issue isn’t malice but structural amplification. Social media’s profit-driven algorithms curate content that deepens ideological divides, making users perceive opposing views as existential threats. Fixing this requires confronting how technology reshapes human cognition—not blaming individuals for succumbing to systems designed to exploit their biases. As one study notes, these echo chambers don’t just reflect polarization; they manufacture it through recursive reinforcement of extreme content.

[–] blueworld@piefed.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The thread below is an interesting example of how anger can override rational discourse.

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

I think calling out specific comments is unnecessary and a bit counterproductive

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I think this is all just serving to amplify problems America already has had since the Civil War and reconstruction, and I really don't think those problems are distributed evenly across the political spectrum, it really is a right wing problem,

But the basic dynamic you're outlining definitely is real and definitely serves to make that underlying problem worse

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yes, they are literal Nazis but don't like being called that publicly

Behind closed doors who knows

[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

One third wants more death.

[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

While claiming to be "pro-life".

[–] Zak@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The thing that bothers me is that in 2024, polling found a majority of Americans favored Trump on immigration and trusted him more than Harris to do a good job on the issue.

When I guessed what Trump was going to do about immigration, it looked a whole lot like what he's actually doing. It wasn't especially hard to guess because he said what he intended to do. While that's not a guarantee with a habitual liar, he did have a record of attempting to keep campaign promises.

What the hell were people who trusted him on immigration in 2024 and don't like what he's doing in 2026 expecting?

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In 2002-03, I told anyone who would listen that the Iraq war was a stupid idea, and that went so well (/s) that GWB actually won the 2004 election (unlike 2000)

By the end of 2006, almost everyone said they opposed the war and had always opposed the war, that they were outraged by Abu Ghraib and soldiers being killed by IEDs and etc.

In my experience, Americans aren't bloodthirsty monsters, but they have crappy imaginations and memories, so they have to actually see an obviously terrible idea get played out and be completely terrible before they will recognize that it is terrible, and then they'll tell you they knew it was terrible all along. I don't think we're much different than people anywhere else in the world in those regards, though.

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[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The other one third are getting sexually excited about it.

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[–] FatVegan@leminal.space 7 points 1 week ago

They are coming for white people now? Now that is too far

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 6 points 1 week ago

how is that possible when its not even legitamate immigration enforcement. they have went to far in their invasion of cities and disregarding the consitution.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 6 points 1 week ago

The other third are in detention, and couldn't be polled.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Are the two thirds ready to do something about it? Or are they waiting until Trump cancels the midterms first?

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Alternative title:

One third of Americans are dangerous, potentially/indirectly violent sociopaths, with no capacity for independent moral reasoning.

[–] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

Two-thirds of Americans say ICE has 'gone too far'

How many are willing to do something to change it?

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (6 children)

30 percent of Americans need to go to those concentration camps they’re building for reeducation when this is over. They can come out when they can pass basic literacy, history, science and political science tests

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[–] Insekticus@aussie.zone 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There's that third again.

~1/3 voted for Harris ~1/3 votes for Dump ~1/3 didnt vote.

I.e., the republicunts are okay with what ICE is doing.

[–] jabeez@lemmy.today 2 points 1 week ago

"1/3 of your country would murder another 1/3, while the remaining 1/3 watches"....can't remember who/where this is from, but it has stuck with me for years, and becomes more and more obviously right.

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