My parents routinely started listening to several of my favourite bands when I was a teen.
Do you have any idea how hard it is to be an angsty rebellious teenager when your parents are supportive of your tastes and phases?
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It's been a while for a new rebellious music genre to appear, though...
Kids, let's go, we are waiting!
Mumble rap is the rebellious version of old school rap.
Just look how angry it makes old school rap lovers.
I generally don't really like rap, but mumble rap just sounds lazy as shit. Like "I can't even be bothered to open my mouth". It's also so stupidly monotone. I may just be an old man yelling at kids, but that's music I will never understand.
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I love the strange genre merges by bands like electric callboy or hanabie but i doubt you can call most their fans kids
Don't know Hanabie, but Electric Callboy certainly is the ultimate comfort music for GenX and Millenials.
The Europop-Techno-Metal mix massively tingels my nostalgia based on the music genres of my youth. Plus it is a surprisingly fitting combination and rocks on a massive scale. :-)
Fucking same. I'm early millennial. Been absolutely loving Electric Callboy. Favorite Band to come out of the 15ish years. Also like Hanabie and some of the more recent Babymetal. I don't need to know the words to like the music.
Definitely check Hanabie out if you like Electric Callboy. They are the all female Japanese answer to them. One of the best female shouts I've ever heard and the Jpop-techno mix is real fun
I feel like there's a few. Like whatever you want to call artists like 100 gecs, or femtanyl.
Just looked them up.
Fentanyl I found classified as Hardcore Punk, which would already be around since the 80s.
But 100 gecs seems to be something called Hyperpop, which is a genuine new GenZ thing!
Sounds interesting, will have a look!
Hyperpop kinda feels like more of a vibe than a music style. The most defining trait being pitched up vocals but to me, is moreso about the energy (angst?) it brings
We have hyperpop that veers more towards rap https://youtu.be/BFF5pyVNd8w
And more standard hyperpop like ericdoa, glaive, and midwxst https://youtu.be/WCPJK9GCXHE https://youtu.be/LseJIsQ62WQ https://youtu.be/Jmz8CXm8JLY https://youtu.be/kCBKHdTwbXU
And derivatives from hyperpop like dariacore https://youtu.be/Lojx82Etjl0
And other artists that started in hyperpop but went on to do their own thing like my goat brakence https://youtu.be/cpGHMGOeg-o
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Is Skibidi Toilet music good enough for you?
The whole brainrot thing goes in the right direction, but is not really a music genre.
The Skibidi song e.g. is pretty conventional stuff.
The videos are the avant-garde part here.
richard d james need to get back into the studio.
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Unless it's an AI song. If you link me an AI song I will bring back the beatings.
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SpongeBob me boy, that sounds sick AF! What's the song so I can add it to me playlist? Arg arg arg arg arg!
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Mark Fisher, the author of Capitalist Realism, in another book called "Exiting the Vampire Castle", argued that in the history of recorded music, every 20 - 30 years or so there were new genres of music that wouldn't be recognizable as music to the previous generation. But around the early 2000s this process stopped, and musical categories hardened due to capitalist logic. Record companies just wanted to churn out the same things that they already knew how to market, rather than invest in artists who were cutting edge. He called it "the slow cancellation of the future".
Granted I think Fisher is kind of overrated as a practical theorist, all those CCRU research people went crazy, and Fisher is a particularly sad example. His vampire castle book is okay, and that generation was like preoccupied with marketing manipulation (a perspective that arguably was being marketed to them/us).
But through that perspective this meme is interesting, because the reason younger generations can connect about musical tastes, is because popular music has stopped being subversive. Chances are the band the younger boy is listening to has a sound that was copped from an older group, which is why the young man recognizes it as good. But to the older generations, music was still subversive, the young rejected the older, already explored categories of music, which were themselves subversive in their own time.
To play the devil's advocate here: "music used to be subversive but now it's all the same, nothing original" sounds just like a grumpy old man yelling at a cloud. Old people will find reasons to hate new stuff.
This isn't to disagree. I read Capitalist Realism and think the argument works. And personally, I remember how shocked I was to find out that Behind Blue Eyes wasn't originally by Limp Bizkit but much older and that my mom listened to the punk rock band I liked as a teenager when she was young. My question might be if there ever was anything "new under the sun" but first and foremost, I like the idea as a devil's advocate.
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musical categories hardened
That seems like nonsense, given how genres slimed together by the late 90s. Everybody was stealing from everybody else and the best we could do was throw around labels like "alternative." ClearChannel made every genre pull toward country while country became R&B for hwhite people. Meanwhile the electronica scene had discovered computers - a development that took longer than you'd think - and a bunch of dorks styling themselves as DJ [noun] had MP3s all over piracy services. This is right before Youtube, SoundCloud, and MySpace let truly independent artists reach arbitrarily large audiences.
If we really want to start an argument - there's people who say anything generated literally is not music. Kids these days are growing up with the ability to drop a diss track on their friend for a faux pas that happened five minutes ago. Formulaic, yes, but immediately distinct from everyone listening to the same ten conventionally-attractive pop artists.
Actually he wrote a lot about 90s music in this theory, his main example of a subversive musical genre from the 90s was Jungle/D&B.
I mean I don't think its complete nonsense, this is definitely something that has always happened regarding the capitalization of popular music, Gramsci wrote about some of the tendencies, in his analysis of italian theatre and how monopolized capital exploited artists and small venues, back in the 1920s. I think the pressures certainly exist, especially because of the examples you mention, like clear channel, but also live nation and ticketmaster. Those pressures to homogenize and commodify music are objectively the result of monopolization of the music industry. Culture and economy are intrinsically bound up in one another.
But also I feel that he sort of over stated his point, like his analysis is sort of warped by chronic depression and like fiercely hating the Arctic Monkeys.
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I pretty much like good music from many generations and genres. But you know what I don't understand? About 85% of the Beatles songs.They had a few great songs, but so many of them do absolutely nothing for me.
This is, in a nutshell, why music was better back then. Only the gold has stood the test of time. Most of it, like today, was shit.
Actual, classic country is really good. It’s the modern stuff that’s all about loving Bush’s wars, drinking shitting beer, and hating gay people that’s the problem.
Doc Watson, Johnny Cash, and Marty Robbins are all worth checking out, to name a few.
Some modern country is also great! Tyler Childers has multiple songs about fucking around and being a cokehead in Kentucky (he's thankfully clean now). Then there's his Country Squire album that's very fun to watch videos from while stoned. It's like some southern Yellow Submarine.
Zach Bryan released an anti ICE song that I can't currently remember the title of for the life of me.
If you want more folk, Haunted Windchimes, The Ghost of Paul Revere, and Poor Man's Poison are all excellent, with Poor Man's Poison just straight up having multiple leftist as fuck songs. More mainstream you'd find Noah Kahan, who's done some excellent music. It's more pop folk than normal folk, but I'm still a fan personally.
Basically, just avoid artists like that whiny little bitch boy Morgan Wallen or basically any of the mainstream musicians from the 80s to the 2000s and you can find some actually good shit.
Also, both are mainstream, but Travis Tritt's Trouble and John Michael Montgomery's Sold are both absolute bangers.
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I find actual classic country to just be boring, but not boring with a beat enough for work music like Classical music.
The modern country stuff I loathe for just like you said, being Republicunt siren songs lol
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"Yarrr, add it to me playlist."
My kids told me about how they love something called phonk or something. I got excited, because I thought they said "funk". I was very upset when they put on their phonk "music". I was expecting something akin to Sam and Dave or earth wind and fire, but what I got was a cacophony of dying animals and a back beat so horribly off tempo that I couldn't be sure that it was actually part of a song
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I also consider myself to like all genres of music. Some country isn’t bad. Especially older country. Actually newer country isn’t that bad either, but it’s all often so tied into identity politics it can be difficult to listen to.
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