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[โ€“] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 51 points 1 week ago (5 children)

When will it support GrapheneOS? I'm going to keep using last-gen used Pixels until another company comes up with an alternative.

[โ€“] NGram@piefed.ca 56 points 1 week ago (3 children)

GrapheneOS has some very strict requirements which basically means they will refuse to support anything except Pixel phones. Fairphone isn't in the business of making their own (security) chips so I doubt the Graphene team will ever consider them.

CalyxOS, arguably the next best thing, did have support for earlier Fairphones but that project is sort of in limbo now.

[โ€“] cabbage@piefed.social 65 points 1 week ago (7 children)

The Graphene team has also been very outspoken about how much they dislike Fairphone for this very reason.

I use /e/OS on my Fairphone 5. It's not a Graphene alternative as it's not a hardened OS, it's just Android without Google. Good enough for me, I'm not afraid of secret agents stealing my phone to extract data or whatever, I just don't want American big tech anywhere near my phone.

[โ€“] 73ms@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

to be fair I don't think they like anything besides Google Pixel.

[โ€“] cabbage@piefed.social 11 points 1 week ago

Yeah, this is true. They just seem to have a specific beef against Fairphone and /e/OS because it's presented as a privacy alternative (due to no big tech tracking), and the Graphene team believes they are the only ones with the security features to ensure true privacy (because of their... hardened malloc?).

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[โ€“] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, I ran Calyx for a while - it was... not a great user experience. If I am forced to change at some point, I'll reconsider it. That said, Graphene's trying to move off of the Pixel platform. I just haven't looked to see if there are any updates since that piece of info reached me.

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[โ€“] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 5 points 1 week ago

TPM chips are not a mythical thing that only Google makes.

STM makes the ST33 series of TPM that I would trust a hell of a lot more than google to not have a dozen government backdoors.

Microchip, Analog Devices, Infineon, NXP, and onsemi also make TPM chips of varying security levels. Infineon is the premium TPM maker with the highest security if I remember right, a German company.

The issue is they are 3-10โ‚ฌ for the chip alone, which is a significant BOM cost, and it takes a lot of very specific knowledge in firmware and software to actually implement and google probably keeps the android integration methods very hidden. It is very much an intentional vendor lock out.

[โ€“] yakko@feddit.uk 6 points 1 week ago

I'm coming at the same desire from the other end, using my fairphone until I can jump ship for graphene.

I was about to say the same thing!

People want Grapheneos on insecure phones, made by OEMs with a poor history of security patches, with an unlocked bootloader, and root. I personally say those people should use LineageOS because fundamentally that's not GrapheneOS is. The second you water it down from software that can't be hacked by any state actor to just another OS but marginally more secure the name becomes just another brand.

Im gonna be honest I don't see how that would help if anything it would only make things more confusing. That would require the GrapheneOS devs to maintain a separate and significantly less secure OS for what reason?

[โ€“] Squizzy@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

This is a graphene problem.

Gos is not suitable until they leave the pixel series.

Written on my pixel 10 that I had Gos on. I never wanted a pixel just a good camera and locked down environment.

[โ€“] ohellidk@sh.itjust.works 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm posting with one. I like it so far. waiting for the official lineageOS to be released, I'm running unofficial now.

[โ€“] marius@feddit.org 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[โ€“] ohellidk@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago

I'm just really used to lineage, I've used it for years on a lot of phones.

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[โ€“] VolumetricShitCompressor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 week ago (35 children)

Did they already bring back the 3.5mm jack? o.O

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[โ€“] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 13 points 1 week ago (20 children)

Phone makers need to understand that a missing headphone jack is a dealbreaker.

Tho it wouldn't be if companies would at least put two usb ports on the devices. I'd be fine using usb wired earbuds as long as I don't have to give my phone one of those dumb splitter tails.

[โ€“] Stitch0815@feddit.org 5 points 1 week ago

is a dealbreaker.

*for you

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[โ€“] tavostator@feddit.org 11 points 1 week ago

Got mine yesterday!

[โ€“] vga@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I feel like I should start looking at shoulder holsters or other extremely cool accessories when phones are this big. How do you guys carry this shit? Cargo pants?

[โ€“] UnfairUtan@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[โ€“] vga@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 week ago (5 children)

So cargo pants? I tried using a google pixel 9 (the smallest model) and found that I cannot sit down when the phone is in my pocket.

Is my penis too large?

[โ€“] UnfairUtan@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (3 children)

My phone is quite large and fits in all my pants pockets. And they're not cargo

Also penis too large bro what ๐Ÿ˜‚

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[โ€“] dudesss@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I would legit pay Fairphone extra at this stage if they would ship to Canada, either at my home or at a pickup location like Staples, Canada Post, or Purolator.

[โ€“] wampus@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Agreed. I'm honestly a bit surprised they haven't moved into the Canadian market. Heck, I heard that their international insurance ppl let you buy them in the USA, home of Google Fascists, but you still can't buy them in Canada, a country that's had a significant trend to decouple from US tech for over a year now.

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