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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Every time I hear “censorship” cried in relation to piefed, I think of the same cries with Voat, another Reddit clone/refuge. It never compromised on that.

And it turned into a (now long dead) toxic wasteland. As that ethos smothered all the interesting niche communities.

IMO, the #1 Fediverse dev priority should be UX that discourages toxicity. That’s what will keep it alive. A militantly, forcibly “unbiased” UX is a quaint old internet ideal, yet it always seems to snowball into an unsustainable toxic monoculture.

So, if piefed uses “opinionated” defaults to stave that off, good.

[–] Blaze@piefed.zip 2 points 1 week ago
[–] Complexicate@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

It's a good example of the Paradox of Tolerance:

"if a society extends tolerance to those who are intolerant, it risks enabling the eventual dominance of intolerance, thereby undermining the very principle of tolerance"

[–] Flames5123@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Let’s see if piefed is as open as it claims to be. The creator and maintainer actually injects their own opinion into the source code. There are so many deny lists and a social score built into the system.

Piefed is great at putting in new features and making everything pretty. But it’s so opinionated, you’re better off on Reddit, imo.

Source: https://lemmy.ml/comment/23662293

[–] Snoopy@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm now intervening as a mod. The povokative passive-aggressive tone you used is a big no.

Please, can you edit your comment and just tell us that you disagree with the score system and remove your source and reddit part ?

Maybe you wanted to see your post removed for proving your point even futher as "See ? Piefed's staff censorship ideas they doesn't agree."

I went to the your gif and read comments : you won't see that kind of content here. I also asked users to edit their comment, here, when they critized lemmy and i expect you to do the same.

Our goal, is to create a serene space for discussion. Nothing more.

Yes, i disagree with lemmy dev's political opinions but that's not the main reason we enjoy Piefed. And when Nutomic asked me to share lemmy contact and documentation in iceshrimp dev's channel, i helped him. :)

Let's go back to your post :

  • The beggining is aggressive. Are you testing if Piefed is open ?
  • The meme link. We are from various countries, so the american flag...
  • opiniated ? A software isn't neutral, it follows our ideas. For example i enjoy the rational discourse toolkit. :)
  • Reddit, was it necessary ? Last time i went there, i was surprised by the huge amount of bots and ads...we are better of on the fediverse, don't you think ?

You can disagree with the score system, the no federated vote...and explain your point, why this and that...but not the way you did.

So please edit your comment and remove those above part

Users can choose what they prefer :

  • the way communities are moderated and managed
  • their software and its features, ui...

And i'm happy for them they can choose their favorite pie. If you prefer Lemmy, that's great. :)

[–] Flames5123@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I cannot use a tone via text easily: see Poe’s law. It was meant to be informative and sort of speculative to the future of Piefed. I was happy when Piefed came around but this changed my view a little. I want all federation to succeed but having these things be embedded in the code and not flags to set (even though you can turn most off) just strikes me as concerning. I’m glad users have choices though, but we will still call out bad choices, as many do when calling out shitty instances like hexbear or .ml.

I will not remove the source and my opinion on it. I’ve been nothing but civil and understanding in the replies to my post and it’s clear it’s an opinion with using “imo”.

[–] Snoopy@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Your "source" is not a source of information : It is a meme. It doesn't create the conditions for discussion and debate. A meme doesn't invite people to share their thinking, people react.

That's quite different from someone explaining that Piefed has a set of rules that rate our behaviour. The mood and reaction is quite different from there. Do you notice it ?

No, i'm not asking you to remove your opinion that you disagree with piefed score. I never told you that. I'm asking you to rewrite your post and create a proper space for discussion. And i explained why above...

[–] Flames5123@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago

I have already had a proper space for discussion. I’ve been civil in the replies. This is crazy to even be arguing about. If it’s a meme, why do you care? Are we to just discuss and bicker on the internet or create a better space?

Remove it if you want for not conforming to your rules of speech. I’m done.

[–] Flames5123@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

Oh I see your issue. You thought I was linking the meme post, not the comment. Look at the comment I linked. That’s my source. I don’t give a crap about the meme, but the comment is a deep dive into the source code.

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Almost all of these are able to be turned off.

By "social credit" you just mean a toned down version of Reddits karma (that doesn't track positive score)?

[–] Flames5123@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No, like posting a gif leads you to have -1 social score, hidden, because you posted a gif. There’s so many opinions in the code.

[–] Snoopy@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 2 points 1 week ago

You have point but on the other side, its goal is to avoid karma farming and help mods, admins for creating a serene place for discussion.

There is two distinct score : reputation, attitude.

  • Reputation is people's reaction to your comment and post.
  • attitude is how you vote. If you do mass downvote, your ability to downvote is removed until you reach a balance between upvote/downvote.

When we post a gif, and everyone laugh, it's easy to get a good reputation whereas elsewhere, i might post several terrible comments. That's why posting gif doesn't credit you reputation. You can't use gif to bypass bad comment and get a good reputation.

That's why it works like that.

[–] IEatDaFeesh@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Personally I'm fine with a comment getting removed if all they replied with is "this." Sure that's opinionated, but it's a good opinion.

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It can be turned off anyway, most of the others do turn it off.

[–] Ofiuco@piefed.ca 2 points 1 week ago

His source is ml, you can easily take his comment as malicious

[–] apftwb@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I sure hope these are users and not bots...

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 2 points 1 week ago

It's from a few promotional posts on Reddit, so it's users.

[–] rimu@piefed.social 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

piefed.social's server is coping fine but I recommend new people join any other instance. Look for one with a rocket or lightning icon - https://piefed.social/auth/instance_chooser

[–] Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What do the rocket and lightning icons mean?

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

server speed

rocket - fast lightning - medium

[–] Zombie@feddit.uk 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

But lightning is faster than rockets... What? This doesn't make any sense at all!

[–] ageedizzle@piefed.ca 1 points 6 days ago

That kinda makes sense. Lightening travels at the speed of light. Can’t get much faster than that

[–] bibbasa@piefed.social 2 points 1 week ago

eyyy, i'm one of those. long time mastodon user, but was always intimidated by lemmy, piefed seems a lot more friendly.

[–] biltong@piefed.co.za 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I wish there was an option for the graph to start at zero. Graphs like this can be misleading.

[–] squirrel@piefed.kobel.fyi 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I just found out you can freely increase the number of days via the URL on fediverse.observer

https://piefed.fediverse.observer/dailystats&days=2000

Now the graph starts at 0

@HubertManne@piefed.social @EkHouVanBraai@piefed.co.za

[–] biltong@piefed.co.za 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

image
That graph looks pretty good. 🚀

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

how so. 2000 to 3000 is a 50% increase. in a period of days. I mean its not like the numbers are not there and the rate of increase for the year before is like 1600 to 2000 so like 30%. for the whole year.

[–] EkHouVanBraai@piefed.co.za 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

This is the same data, but the graph that doesn't start at zero is misleading.

The one bar looks twice as big, when it definitely isn't.

Graphs that don't start at zero can be useful, but it's nice to have the option to choose.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I understand that but when I see a graph that does not start at zero I can take it into account. I get you though about best practice. Usually this type of thing I think is from software defaulting to it to avoid white space. At the extreme if you have something that is at a million and goes up to 1.1 million that can be a huge jump for a particular time span but if you started at zero it would just look like a straight line.

[–] EkHouVanBraai@piefed.co.za 1 points 1 week ago

Yea I totally get why both exist. Over long timespans starting at zero will just give you a lot of whitespace

[–] AlmightyDoorman@kbin.earth 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If you need to read the numbers to interpret a graph it is redundant and bad visulisation.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] AlmightyDoorman@kbin.earth 1 points 1 week ago

That's not what i meant to say, taking a closer look and trying to undestand it all is obbiously good. But graphs have a big glance value and should be able to convey key information at a glance.

[–] john_t@piefed.ee 1 points 1 week ago

There are dozens of us!

[–] ada@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 week ago

Love to see it!

[–] October1@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] core@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 week ago

lemmy with extra censorship tools

[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Piefed is a different reddit-like software that federates with Lemmy. It's a different take on the same thing that Lemmy is providing, but still compatible with everything, so a piefed user can see and respond to your comment even if you're on Lemmy.

Piefed also has some neat features unique to it, such as:

  • a very nice gallery view for image heavy communities.
  • the ability to combine comments from multiple communities under one post, if the same link was posted to all of them. You can see an example of that here (notice how the comments have dividers for each community).
  • the ability to create and subscribe to a pre-made list of communities, sorta like a multi-reddit.
[–] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Where's the increase coming from? Users changing from Lemmy or new users to the theadiverse? (I fucking hate that word)

[–] rimu@piefed.social 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] recursive_recursion@piefed.ca 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 2 points 1 week ago
[–] Blaze@piefed.zip 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

(I fucking hate that word)

Not the biggest fan either, but nobody has better alternative. Compared to Forumverse, Threadiverse is a bit better.

Also a few threads on !fedibridge@lemmy.dbzer0.com and !fedigrow@lemmy.zip

[–] Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Community-verse? Groupiverse? Topicverse? Lol

[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago

I don't see why it has to end in verse. Like, boardnet sounds good (in my opinion), board network, because Lemmy/piefed is a network of boards.

[–] cabbage@piefed.social 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The social web is the grown up sounding alternative I guess.

[–] Blaze@piefed.zip 1 points 1 week ago

People will think the social Web is existing social networks