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[–] foodandart@lemmy.zip 209 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

The fact that Anna's Archive isn't responding to the court tells me they couldn't give a shit about the lawsuit.

Glorious.

[–] tomiant@piefed.social 86 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

"Sir, this is Wendys" energy.

[–] Alb@sh.itjust.works 56 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] petrescatraian@libranet.de 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Did they release the actual music yet?

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 38 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It would be funny if they didn't actually have any of it and were just pestering the industry. But they did release all the metadata, and spotify seems to think it's legit...

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[–] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 153 points 1 week ago
[–] veeesix@lemmy.ca 134 points 1 week ago (6 children)

And how much of that hypothetical $13 Trillion would be shared the poor, poor artists?

[–] DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca 61 points 1 week ago

Roughly $0.00002/a/s/l/m

When this whole thing with Lily Allen was a thing, where she got more from posting feet pic on OnlyFans than from Spotify, someone posted an article that said Spotify is paying out like 150k-200k per month just for her streams. And yet only a tiny fraction of that ends up with her. Music labels fucking suck.

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[–] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 103 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Is this the music industry asking for more than all the money in the world again?

Yes, I did say again.

[–] Bakkoda@lemmy.zip 37 points 1 week ago

LINE MUST GO UP. ANY LINE ACTUALLY. WE'RE FUCKIN DESPERATE.

  • Businesses everywhere
[–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 23 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Well, more along the lines of 10% of all the worlds money.

... very reasonable indeed 😜

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 83 points 1 week ago (1 children)

$13.000.000.000.000

Like, are we 12 now? I too would come up with these bazonker numbers at that age.

Fuck Spotify,fuck the current legal system that got us here

[–] ArseAssassin@sopuli.xyz 25 points 1 week ago (5 children)

The higher the number, the more the stock goes up when they announce it. Should be opposite though really if these guys are incompetent enough to lose $13 trillion because of a single pirate.

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[–] LazerDickMcCheese@sh.itjust.works 77 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Friendly reminder that streaming services have negatively impacted artists and art cultivation. Headbanging while blackout drunk at a dive bar gig, without directly giving the band(s) a penny, would help them more than their semiannual Spotify payout

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 16 points 1 week ago

One of my favorite memories is inviting both my best friends and coworkers to a metal show at Saint Vitus, both groups hitting it off and making new friends, chatting with the bands at the merch table, and eating enough pizza to vomit on the sidewalk the moment I stepped outside.

[–] slothrop@lemmy.ca 71 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If the litigants suffered these tremendous losses bc of AA, can they not deduct these losses from their taxes?

Oh, wait...

[–] tomiant@piefed.social 35 points 1 week ago

We can't sleep at night, it was... It was... HORRIBLE

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[–] Feyd@programming.dev 65 points 1 week ago (2 children)

These numbers are always shitty napkin math that assumes every pirate would be a paying customer even though a lot of them don't have the money to even spend as much as they calculate, would just skip jumping through all the hoops they've created or don't even have a legal way to purchase in their country. Completely brazen lies every time

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[–] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 65 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Weird, I wasn't aware that Spotify OWNED this music. I'm fairly certain they they only license it.

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[–] antonim@lemmy.dbzer0.com 63 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Apparently it's legal and acceptable to demand, through a court, enough money to destroy the world economy.

Seriously, if I were the judge I'd throw out the lawsuit until they come up with a remotely realistic number. As it is, it makes the whole lawsuit look like a joke.

[–] Insekticus@aussie.zone 19 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The whole lawsuit is a joke.

And it should be permanently thrown out and not seen again because of how unserious that number is.

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[–] REDACTED 56 points 1 week ago (2 children)

we have stood with the artist community against piracy

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Anna's archive is not giving you song downloads, but rather metadata

over a massive music data scrape

So when are you going to sue AI companies?

[–] far_university1990@reddthat.com 18 points 1 week ago

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Anna's archive is not giving you song downloads, but rather metadata

200gb meta, 300tb music. Just 300tb not released yet. Might be, might not.

So when are you going to sue AI companies?

I think some sue suno and settle for money. And GEMA (germany) sue openai for songtext.

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[–] etherphon@midwest.social 46 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Lol, who'd they consult on that number, Joe Rogan? Fuck Spotify, another leech company getting rich off the talent of others.

[–] RainbowBlite@piefed.ca 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

According to the article, $150,000 is the maximum damages allowed per track. So $150,000/track * 86,000,000 tracks is around $13 Trillion. So they are asking for the maximum that the law allows.

They could ask for infinity billion dollars for all it matters; you can't get blood from a stone.

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[–] e8d79@discuss.tchncs.de 46 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's about as realistic as the Russian court that fined Google for two undecillion roubles.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's about 20 bucks though.

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[–] webkitten@piefed.social 42 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A reminder you can donate to AA though a multiple number of ways including a simple Amazon gift card and it takes less than 5 minutes.

[–] CorrectAlias@piefed.blahaj.zone 15 points 1 week ago

And you get high speed downloads if you do so!

[–] mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 38 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Spotify doesn't even have that much net worth how the hell one can steal more than that anyway? Also this isn't even stealing just a digital copy sent by spotify servers

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Probably theorizing every potential peer is pulling the whole archive.
So net worth * 100.000 potential peers = $$$

[–] antonim@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Perhaps Anna can pay them off with theoretical potential money too? Like, a big collection of monkey NFTs.

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[–] Lorka@feddit.dk 35 points 1 week ago (2 children)

AI have made pirating legal, as long as you are not pirating for personal enjoyment. Isn’t that the defence the AI companies have used successfully?

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[–] Damage@feddit.it 35 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

At this point I must cancel my Spotify subscription. Any suggestion on how to implement a somewhat automated music discovery system that can replace Spotify's "radios" and playlists?

I already run a Navidrome instance.

[–] e8d79@discuss.tchncs.de 29 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Try Listenbrainz, it creates weekly discovery playlists based on your listening habits.

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Try out manual music discovery, it's dope!

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[–] sefra1@lemmy.zip 31 points 1 week ago (2 children)

How do you even sue a shadow library? Aren't they like, behind 7 proxies?

[–] slothrop@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Plus, they're using the neighbour's internet!
Checkmate, spotify!

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[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] Chais@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 week ago

13 fantastillion dollars

[–] HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 1 week ago (2 children)

May all lawyers involved die in the most horrible way possible. Actually scratch that, May all corporate lawyers regardless of involvement die in the most horrible way possible. ☺️

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[–] Min3r@kitty.ly 24 points 1 week ago

They're gonna shit when they find out about yt-dlp

[–] AlreadyDefederated@midwest.social 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

How would they expect to collect this "money" thing? Across international borders and stuff?

[–] tomiant@piefed.social 32 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Just like the Pirate Bay they will try to find and prosecute individuals behind it and then try and force governments to block the domains. Which they did, all of those guys spent trivial prison sentences (this was early internet and in Sweden, circumstances are not the same anymore), and TPB was down for like... A year I think, before it popped right back up and is going just as strong as it ever did. Because just like these capitalist laws to protect the technofeudal class evolve to protect them, so does the methods by which creative hackers employ tech to fuck them in the ass.

Hydrabay 4 lyfe

[–] three@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 week ago

lol

lmao even

[–] Kongar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I’ve honestly been trying to figure out this move for weeks. What was the point of grabbing it ALL when it’s so easy to rip whatever you want with some of the tools? Was it just a big “F you”? And peace - that’s a reason :) In that case they could care less what they get sued for. But to me it seems like unnecessarily whacking at the hornets nest. I hope it doesn’t bite them in the arse someday.

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