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'I'll believe it when I see it': Windows 11 users are cynical about Microsoft's promises to fix the OS and stop pushing AI (www.techradar.com)
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[–] theyoyomaster@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

Needs more than just backing off AI to get me to upgrade my backup windows 10 installations (only use them for things Linux can’t do).

Control panel/settings needs to be fixed and they can fuck right off with one drive. Every file should be on my computer unless I specifically save to a clearly designated cloud drive. No cloud functions should ever touch files I have saved (by default) to my computer. Also unfuck the start and explorer menus and give me back my pinball.

After that we can talk, but I’m still skeptical.

[–] Alabaster_Mango@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

OneDrive also deletes files off of your computer if you don't use them often enough. When I was switching over to Linux I had to download a bunch of stuff that was made on that PC! Ridiculous.

Like, you can turn that off, but I don't think I ever signed up for that specifically.

[–] theyoyomaster@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Yeah, I just don’t trust it so I don’t use it. I have one drive storage and use it, but only on my phone and via the website. I don’t let it touch my windows install because it’s just waaaaaay too aggressive.

[–] Notamoosen@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'd love to know who deemed adding more clicks to get to features an improvement.

[–] theyoyomaster@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

The improvement is you’re less likely to use your computer the way you want to instead of the way Micro$lop wants to tell investors you could use it in a way beneficial to them.

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[–] JustARegularNerd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago

I also wonder how much of this was spurred by Linux even beginning to come to the mainstream mind and how simple most distros are to just install and run (Bazzite, CachyOS, Linux Mint).

You've always had Linux go around tech circles, forums, enthusiasts, etc. but big YouTube channels out of that circle are talking about it and hardware manufacturers are distributing it in place of Windows in the case of the Steam Deck, and it's just building more and more momentum.

I think it's easy to take for granted how (relatively) mainstream Linux is getting, but if you think today how many people talk about *BSD, that was Linux not even 10 years ago.

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

*skeptical

Is this going to be another jealous/envious situation? Are we going to lose "skeptic" from our language because no one can be bothered to learn the difference between a skeptic and a cynic?

[–] funkajunk@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

While I understand your point, in this case I think "cynical" is applicable.

Anything to do with mega corporations (like M$), I assume bad faith and selfish motives from the start.

[–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They have an (unintentional) strategy of alternating good and bad releases. So *if windows 12 comes out and it is somewhat sensible, it will be amazing when compared to win 11, and people will not wait to get off 11 onto 12.

Whereas if 12/came out right after 10, it would be compared to 10 and people would not like it as much.

[–] Prove_your_argument@piefed.social 4 points 1 week ago

I wouldn’t call it good and bad. I’d say every other release they have a horrific one to scare people and then they have a bad but better than the other one release.

The data harvesting is just getting to be too much though. That’s in every release.

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 week ago

https://media.tenor.com/afi30GoyXrsAAAAM/bs-detector.gif

[–] klpy6328964@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

Messed with Ubuntu maybe a decade ago was the last Linux experience I had until recently replacing win11 with Fedora KDE on my main machine. Honestly feels like a breath of fresh air. Nothing is asking me to sync it to one drive. Everything is snappy and customizable. It’s clean and just feels pleasant to use. Not ever going back.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

They made this promise? Lol ok.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 week ago

That was my reaction when I read about them pulling copilot and such. I think it's probably the reaction of every software nerd.

[–] Poppa_Mo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

You guys should see what phone link is up to. Even if you didn't configure it.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes. In Windows 12.

[–] uienia@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

It's going to be massively worse in Windows 12. There is no going back for them.

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