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[–] starblursd@lemmy.zip 198 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Too little to late.. I already left and fell in love with Linux

[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 54 points 1 week ago

Welcome! Isn't it a breath of fresh air to use an OS that isn't trying to turn your computer into an advertising and upselling platform? It has its issues, but it's a huge relief to escape the constant inundation from Microsoft.

(Obligatory: I use arch BTW)

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 50 points 1 week ago

Welcome to the club buddy! we've been waiting for you!

[–] digitalFatteh@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Same here. Got fed up after every damned update to subscribe to this, want to setup backup to cloud, setup office. Switched to Linux and now not a single subscription popup in sight. It’s been bliss. Spent the weekend with the misses sorting out 30 years of photos and getting to know exif editor 🫣

[edit] exif not exit editor.

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[–] Greg@lemmy.ca 117 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Windows 11 felt like a downgrade before all the AI bs. Microsoft values me more as an advertising opportunity than a customer.

[–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago

I had avoided it until late last year when I had to reinstall a friend's borked install after it had somehow managed to shred its registry hives.

Holy shit. That installer is an embarrassment. First it couldn't get past the first reboot until I found out that you can set it to use what looks like the Windows 7 installer for the first steps. Then I had to deal with a dog slow installer that needs half a dozen reboots for some unfathomable reason. Then an endless cavalcade of sales prompts, including one for an Office subscription where they try to hide the price from you. All to end in, well, Windows 11.

I simultaneously installed Fedora Kinoite on his old laptop. I don't think the Fedora installer is one of the better ones but it was so much easier and faster to set up the machine that it was almost comical.

Seeing both systems side by side really drives home just how clunky Windows is. And how Microsoft installers are barely better than they were 15 years ago, but now they have ads.

[–] xxce2AAb@feddit.dk 73 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I read "reevaluating its AI strategy on Windows 11" as "finding a more subtle way to shove that botulistic sausage down their customers throats".

[–] oh_@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago

Yeah, exactly, they never said they are removing any AI. Just will be slapping some paint on it.

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

botulistic sausage

Epic new band name

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[–] village604@adultswim.fan 55 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I think it's really easy for Lemmy users to assume that the general population has the same technological interest and literacy that they do.

The Windows 11 users they are talking about are from an /r/pcmasterrace thread.

The vast, vast majority of consumers don't give a shit. They don't care enough to even think about whether their computer is actually secure, they don't care that they don't own their OS, and they don't care that AI is being shoved in.

Their computer is a magic box to them, and they don't care to know more.

[–] Earthman_Jim@lemmy.zip 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I do think the vast majority of users see things like copliot all over the OS, and then watch their PC run like shit, and assume it's the new fandagled thing ruining their experience regardless of whether they care about AI or not.

[–] T156@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Especially if they update and the entire computer is then broken, like with the recent bug where it would break particular SSDs.

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[–] andallthat@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (9 children)

I am not a tech wizard. As soon as my new minipc got home with Windows 11, I installed CachyOS on it. I found out later that it's based on one of the "difficult" Linux variants, but everything went super smoothly (I might have just been lucky. i don't know, don't take this as advice!).

Yes I had to follow a few instructions on creating an installation USB key. That was the hardest part. But my relationship with windows had become too abusive. I do want my computer to "just work" and let me do my stuff, but that's not what windows is doing any longer

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[–] U7826391786239@lemmy.zip 41 points 1 week ago (4 children)

i'll never see it because i'm never using windows again

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[–] nevetsg@aussie.zone 35 points 1 week ago (10 children)

The Start menu has gotten worse with every update. It is getting ridiculous.
I can no longer click start > type in the program I need > hit enter.
Start menu, you had one job!

[–] ptu@sopuli.xyz 12 points 1 week ago

I moved it to the side when 16:9 screens became popular and vertical space was more limited.

Windows 11 removed this feature.

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[–] NutWrench@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I think the best way to turn people on to Linux is to give them a bootable live USB, so they can try it out. Otherwise, they have no basis for comparison.

Too many people just accept whatever Microsoft gives them, shrug and think, "Well, I guess this is just the way computers are."

[–] bytesonbike@discuss.online 7 points 1 week ago

The best way from my perspective is to show them.

At tech events and meetups, I'm showing them Linux.

When my friends come over, I show them my self hosted solutions on a Linux.

At work, where we use Macs, we talk about open-source, including Linux.

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[–] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 26 points 1 week ago

Microsoft's promises to fix the OS and stop pushing AI

Never heard such a promise.

[–] Mostly_Gristle@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Windows 11 feels like Microsoft is actively punishing me for being foolish enough to keep using their products. Adding some janky AI bullshit machine to this garbage fire feels now they're just taking the piss.

[–] Alabaster_Mango@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No joke, one of the last straws for me was their stupid copilot popup on the active cell in Excel. Hated that garbage. Also their refusal to let me just use the file explorer to save my files. Maybe I'm an old fogey, but every new addition felt like a step backwards. I have now switched to Linux and am having a decent time (not for everyone tho and I totes understand if others don't want to make the switch).

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[–] klymilark@herbicide.fallcounty.omg.lol 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Remember: Companies don't learn lessons, they react to profits. They're 100% gonna boil the frog here.

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[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago

i don’t believe it and am no longer giving them the chance to allow me to see it.

[–] NoxAstrum@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 week ago

Great news, you don't have to bother, just switch to Linux. I did, and I don't have to spend a single moment worrying about what Microsoft is doing to their garbage.

[–] Lulzagna@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (13 children)

Microsoft hasn't made a decent OS since Windows 7, why would they start now?

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[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

know who never pushed AI?

Linux.

know who has fixes or useful community support?

Linux.

know who doesn't scan your desktop every second to scrape your data?

Linux.

know who has the audacity to provide a free product and still doesn't sell your identity to the lowest bidders?

Linux.

holy shit, it's almost like Linux is the OS by the people for the people...

[–] Strider@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

There's a threshold that you pass and once you do there's no going back because the trust is lost forever and customers will go the next chance they get.

It looks like this is finally the point we might have reached with windows.

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[–] kcseb@pawb.social 15 points 1 week ago

and this is why I use Linux. No forced AI nonsense being shoved down my neck.

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 15 points 1 week ago

Sorry, I can't hear you over all the Linux on my computers since last year. Did you say "promises to shit on the OS and super push AI?" Yeah, sounds about right for Microslop.

[–] roserose56@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Do you believe them that they gonna stop AI? It's a billion investment that needs results for the shareholders!

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I'll believe it when I see it

Why? Why even wanna see it? Just walk away, go to Linux, and find that suddenly you own your computer again

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[–] solarvector@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 week ago

They'll stop pushing AI by integrating it throughout the system similar to how Internet Explorer is tied to everything. Except much more invasive.

Their goal is certainly not reducing AI, it's making it seamlessly incorporated in everything you do.

[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 week ago

even being cynical towards microsoft at this point looks to me like sheepish adoration. If you have any hope that microsoft might start doing better you are naive.

[–] iturnedintoanewt@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

In this update this month they prioritized the app store over local results. I tried to type powershell (work computer) on the start menu, and now it offers me the app store link BEFORE my installed powershell. Yeah I'm sure they're going to change course.

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[–] goatinspace@feddit.org 8 points 1 week ago
[–] Sinirlan@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Like 5 years too late for me, I ditched Winslop bit over 4 years ago, never looked back. Yes, it's not perfect, not everything works out of the box and I have to search for solutions every now and then but it's My Computer again.

[–] MagnificentSteiner@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 week ago

Microslop could do absolutely anything to Windows and it wouldn't make me go back because it would be Microslop doing it.

[–] jode@pawb.social 7 points 1 week ago

Microsoft my sweet summer child, it's not just the ai. It's the Spyware wrapped in a Windows shell. Call me when I can install without needing an MS account.

[–] Honytawk@feddit.nl 7 points 1 week ago

No they aren't. They don't care.

[–] agentTeiko@piefed.social 6 points 1 week ago

I don't think windows is an OS anymore. It just the personification of the checkout questions they ask you at GameStop or BestBuy about the extended warranty or magazine subscription.

[–] FireWire400@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The damage has been done. But honestly, Windows 11 changed my life despite its shortcomings.

So thank you, Microslop, for making me embrace Linux.

Microsoft appears to be finally listening to users

They're not, never will.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago

Their stock tanking like 12% must have been a wake up call

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago
[–] deacon@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

But here is the thing: There were already a million reasons to avoid Microsoft even before their lost weekend with this AI fever dream.

Remove the Microslop and those older reasons remain.

I also wonder how much of this was spurred by Linux even beginning to come to the mainstream mind and how simple most distros are to just install and run (Bazzite, CachyOS, Linux Mint).

You've always had Linux go around tech circles, forums, enthusiasts, etc. but big YouTube channels out of that circle are talking about it and hardware manufacturers are distributing it in place of Windows in the case of the Steam Deck, and it's just building more and more momentum.

I think it's easy to take for granted how (relatively) mainstream Linux is getting, but if you think today how many people talk about *BSD, that was Linux not even 10 years ago.

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