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Hiroshima scientists turn any smartphone into a radiation detector (techxplore.com)
submitted 1 week ago by Innerworld@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world
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[–] deranger@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

This costs “less than $70”.

You can get a cheap Geiger counter for $50 today and it’s about the same size. I see some for $30-40. These are based on old, proven technology, not some new thing with new unknown problems and an app.

Not that it isn’t neat, but it’s kind of a solved problem.

To put this into perspective, a 10 Gray dose to the skin is high enough to cause permanent hair loss.

A 10Gy exposure is well, well beyond hair loss range and into the fatal within days zone. The LD50 is 5Gy, LD99 is 9Gy IIRC. Methinks the author did not do their research on the topic.

[–] FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 week ago

Well, technically the hair loss is permanent if you die afterwards.

[–] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Yes, but a cheap Geiger counter doesn't use AI. Get with the times.

[–] Venator@lemmy.nz 2 points 1 week ago

Could probably make it way cheaper than $70, and might be easier to source and distribute the EBT4 film in an emergency than geiger counters.

[–] dukemirage@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

What’s LD50 and LD99?

[–] deranger@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 week ago

Other comment is wrong. LD50 = 50% chance of dying. LD99 = 99% chance of dying. The figures I listed are for humans, not mice. LD50 in mice is likely drastically different than LD50 in humans.

[–] 01189998819991197253 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The EBT4 film is designed to change color instantly when exposed to radiation, a change that can be detected by the naked eye.

So, why do I need your system to point a digital camera on the film, if I can see the change on the film? Seems like a solution to a problem that was already solved.

[–] JustinTheGM@ttrpg.network 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's not an "if" detector, it's a "how much" detector. It looks like it's using the LED chamber to light the film in a consistent way, and then the phone camera measures the color change to quantify how much radiation it was exposed to.

[–] 01189998819991197253 2 points 1 week ago

Ah. I missed that. Ok, this makes total sense then. But the films activate at high doses anyway; doses you'll notice. I guess this system will be especially useful if those films ever become more sensitive.

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I guess if you want an automatic alarm, that could be useful.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 1 points 1 week ago

They already are one though.