Both sides are so morally bankrupt it's disgusting.
You can condemn Hamas without defending Israel. Condemning Hamas is not anti-Islam.
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I condemn both Hamas and the Israeli government, because they are both a bunch of murderous assholes who are responsible for atrocities.
Sometimes I also have this silly idea that we should hold governments to a higher standard than terrorist groups when it comes to not committing atrocities considering they are supposed to have a chain of command and some rules while a terrorist group could in theory start shit again if any individual member doesn't want to stop.
Especially when you consider that Netanyahu has been supporting Hamas:
https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/
I keep hearing people say that Hamas doesn't represent the Palestinian people, yet they don't want to call out Hamas. So which is it? Is calling out Hamas anti Palestinian or does Hamas not represent Palestinians? The people refusing to call out Hamas can't seem to decide.
You mean the people on Lemmy?
I'll call them out for you: Hamas is a piece of shit and needs to be removed. Apartheid needs to end.
Both things can be true at the same time.
That depends what you mean by calling out Hamas. Their terrorist actions are of course despicable but twisting every civilian victim of Israel's bombing campaign as "Hamas was using them as human shields so it is not Israel's fault" equally so.
Is calling out Hamas anti Palestinian
Who has claimed that?
She is taking the opportunity. Let's see in the European elections next year whether this is a cunning move. The (worrying to me) idea that is passing is that it's ok to be racist, provided that you aren't antisemitic. As if the only error of last century's totalitarianism was antisemitism. We're being very short sighted.
People who really think that LePen and her fascist friends wouldn't turn on the Jews eventually are bloody stupid. At the very least it would be the Jews turn when the other more easier minorities have been "dealt" with. There always needs to be an enemy and they never run out of them. The only question is when it's your turn and not if.
LFI are doing exactly that, but the whole country is shitting its collective pants over it because it sounds so much more anti-Israel than every other party's discourse.
Jesus, the irony of Le Pen sucking up to rightly freaked-out Jewish people is thick. Because she would absolutely turn on them the second she had real power.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
PARIS — Given the antisemitic pedigree of France’s far-right National Rally, it is a remarkable turn of the political tides that party leader Marine Le Pen now sees a prime electoral opportunity in pledging to protect the country’s fearful Jewish community.
The moral vacillations of France’s hard left, which is refusing to describe Hamas as a terrorist organization, have horrified French Jews, just as they face a surge in antisemitic offenses, ranging from death threats to graffiti on Jewish shops.
She can seize on a clear anti-Islamist agenda, while the extreme left relies heavily on a support base in immigrant and Muslim communities, where a robust defense of Israel would play badly.
Supporting France’s Jews against antisemitism is probably less a play for votes from the world’s third biggest Jewish community than another major step by Le Pen to try to normalize the party and break from its toxic past.
“We have a weight around our necks due to the comments by Jean-Marie Le Pen and his allies,” said a National Rally MP, who was granted anonymity to discuss sensitive issues more candidly.
“Europe is not homogenous, in some countries, we’re worried about neo-Nazis on the right, but in France and Belgium, it’s Islamist movements that are at the root of antisemitism, they kill Jews because they are Jewish,” said Dahan from the CRIF.
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Don't forget that antisemitic zionism is indeed a thing. Nazis are more than happy to court jews as long as they're not here.
Also, again, it's totally fine to condemn the atrocities commited by hamas while also condeming the atrocities commited by Israel.