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Everything in moderation, including moderation.

The vegans mostly hate this. Which is probably why no one cares about outspoken vegans

Btw the author is the maker of elementaryOS

Can you still be incorrigibly self righteous?

Exactly.

You can get a lot if not most of the Ecological and Health benefits by simply eating less meat (also fish, but mainly meat) and a way to do that is to replace some meat or fish meals with vegetarian or even vegan meals.

People in most of the West eat much more meat than it's nutritionally recommended, so reducing one's meat intake is a win-win and far more easy than fully switching to a vegetarian (or, even harder, vegan) diet.

Granted, that doesn't actually address the moral beliefs around rearing and killing animals for food that inspire many vegetarians and vegans, but that's a whole separate conversation that's about one's personal moral posture, not about Ecology or Health and should be discussed in that plane - a person who has already willfully reduced the amount of meat they eat should be no harder for Vegetarians or Vegans to convince that rearing and killing animals for food is immoral, than any other people, probably even easier since they're already comfortable with eating vegetarian or vegan meals so that specific resistance to change is already lower.

Some people think the definition of "freegan" means dumper diving and a hardcore anti consumerist attitude, but it could also mean "I don't buy meat, and am comfortable abstaining from it, but if it's given to me/made for a party, I am not against eating what's there." which I like.

On the one hand I approve of this strategy, on the other hand there are so many people that lie to me and themselves that they only eat animal products rarely or only from the most local grass fed farmer and then you spend time with them and you see they always choose the meat option, every single opportunity and since its the cheap corner restaurant that pece of meat has never seen grass in its' life. It's disheartening.

I very often have whole days in my week, probably 2 or 3 where I don't eat any meat at all. I am definitely no vegetarian, I love pork in all it's forms. But the whole idea of having to have meat with every meal is ridiculous. Beans, falafel, cheese, tofu, etc are all tasty ways to get protein and are usually quite cheap as well.

And yeah the only non open source software I use is games. It took a couple years to get off windows, but I've been Linux as my daily driver since 2015 or 2016.

what you believe is not shown by what you just tell yourself in your head, but shown by how you act. it means that if you say you believe in the ideals of veganism but can't give up a meal of bacon for it, you simply don't hold that value strong enough.

which is fine, its okay to be unsure about your values, but lets not confuse ourselves here by saying we can hold certain values without behaving like we actually do.

I feel like this is a labels issue though... Lots of people don't want to go "vegan" or "vegetarian" because of a small group of vegans, but if you were to give them a meal without announcing it was vegan they'd probably enjoy it.

Same to an extent for me: I could never give up dairy because I love milk, cheese and butter too much, but I do eat (asian style) vegetarian meals multiple times a week and have at most one meat meal per day, instead of at every meal, and I have a mindset that meat is nice but not that you can't make other nice dishes with mushrooms, tofu, cheese, etc. - you just have to make different things.

Reframing it as "look at these nice things you can have" seems a lot more accessible than telling people they shouldn't eat meat, or they should eat less meat, or that the other proteins are just a substitute for meat, which makes it seem like you're missing out on something.

I joined a group of people who wanted to eat more vegan/vegetarian. It was going fairly well, but then a guy joined the group who kept shaming us for eating any animal products, and a lot of us (myself included) dropped out. Shame.

I've started eating more fatty, sustainable fish, both for my health as well at the environment, and less red meat. Trying to do what I can.

What I’d really like to pull off is Kangatarianism. Based off Australia, the idea is you can eat meat, but only of “pest animals” we have too much of.

It would be hard to set up, and may face regulatory scrutiny by USDA. I imagine a lot of deer/pig/turkey hunters would like having a way to sell their catch on. We’d also need to watch for “rat catcher” problems where people see the animal as suddenly lucrative and grow its population intentionally.