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[–] Stefan_S_from_H@piefed.zip 179 points 1 week ago (2 children)

But never announce it on social media. The purists will fight you.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 41 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The purists will hate you, and those that hate the purists will also hate you.

[–] MirrorGiraffe@piefed.social 21 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I'm a purist but I appreciate everyone doing their best. Everyone has different challenges and priorities and in the end a bacontarian is much better than eating meat all the time, according to me at least.

[–] DokPsy@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

For me, I'd love to see the monoculture farms go away. Reduced meat eating would go a long way to that end.

It doesn't require completely abstaining but even a 10% reduction in the need for feed and other processed items would free up land that could be used in more sustainable ways.

To that end, I'm also a fan of alternative farming methods such as vertical farms and promoting even small balcony boxes that may only produce pretty flowers or herbs.

Every variety of greenery in as many places as possible would combat the poison we've pumped into the world over the past few centuries.

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[–] not_IO@lemmy.blahaj.zone 33 points 1 week ago (18 children)

vegans as well as linux users are nowhere near as outspoken and petty as they are made out to be. personally i find jokes about that insufferable and ubiquitous. The ratio of jokes about this to actually people like this existing is like 100:1. my theory is, They get so much shit because them just existing reminds people of their own shortcommings, instead of applauding people doing the effort to pioneer a better world these people decide to make a snarky remark and continue being lazy and annoying with these jokes.

[–] protist@mander.xyz 29 points 1 week ago (15 children)

I know quite a few vegans in my life who are amazing, nonjudgmental people. On Lemmy, I've been called a "murderer" and a "carnist" for mentioning I'm reducing my meat consumption.

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[–] Stefan_S_from_H@piefed.zip 14 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I speak from personal experience. I once tried talking about reducing meat consumption and got attacked. Never again.

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[–] InnerScientist@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're refering to as Vegan, is in fact, bacon/Vegan, or as I've recently taken to calling it, bacon plus Vegan. Vegan is not an diet unto itself, but rather another component of a fully functioning diet system made useful by the bacon, grease and vitals destroying components comprising a full obesity as defined by WHO.

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[–] ruuster13@lemmy.zip 135 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Perfect is the enemy of good.

[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago

And the enemy of progress. If everyone arrived for "good enough" we'd get further than people who refuse to try for fear of not achieving perfection. And this is problem comes not only from that person, but from the external pressure to be perfect. Fuck that shit. My old man used to get on me as a kid, "You only want to be good enough?" Yeah, that's fine. I get everything done that I need to, and I can go be good enough at some other shit too, and I think I make the world around me better with all of my good enough shit.

[–] lasta@piefed.world 47 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Being overly pushy and judgmental towards people who want to make a change in the right direction is a great way to repel them from your cause. I prefer to welcome them and offer them the proper resources to get started.

It’s entirely possible that once the people who want to go vegan but aren’t ready to give up bacon/cheese/that one other food get used to a vegan diet and substitutions, they will eventually be ready to let go of those last few products on their own.

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[–] DiabolicalBird@lemmy.ca 41 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Gatekeepers are the fucking worst. Every time I start reading up on something there's always a handful of miserable condescending shitheads being nasty to people because they're 'not 'doing it right.'

Most vegan threads I come across usually has some of these, insulting anyone that's not 100% on board even if they're trying to get into it. Audiophiles are pretty much on the same level as hardcore vegans when it comes to being obnoxious (recently saw someone ask why the op was bothering setting up a music system if they didn't have thousands of dollars to spare, for example). Linux users on support threads is a coin flip of whether they'll be helpful or insulting.

Let people ease into things, stop demanding perfection right out of the gates!

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I think that knowing the definition of veganism is the bare minimum. Gatekeeping is one thing, but you should at least know what the thing you're trying to join is. If you've done zero research, that's on you.

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[–] Pencilnoob@lemmy.world 40 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I am seeing more and more folks go veg simply because the price, and that's great! Build a culture of veg meals and normalize the epic curries, chillis, soups, stews, spreads, and tofu / seitan/mushroom dishes

I really like Derek Sarno's YouTube channel for this reason. I feel very welcome watching his content because he doesn't browbeat folks who aren't fully vegan, he just presents an epic mountain of some of the most mouth watering vegan food I've ever seen.

Instead of purity tests to keep folks out, we need more people like Derek who hold the door open for everyone, so they can smell the amazing food cooking inside.

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Can't upvite this enough. I'm not really vegetarian, but I love the fact that it is gaining traction, since it's just so much better food. If there is a vegan option of anything, I'll go for that.

The best burger I've ever eaten had a giant mushroom as the main thing in it, sterotypically served by a trans girl at a street food vendor in the gay quarter of Amsterdam.

It literally ruined burgers for me, I'm still chasing that high. I think if you want to be a vegan activist, learn to cook well and open a restaurant. That's how they got me.

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[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 31 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (9 children)

This also applies to renewable energy btw. Some people seem to think we can't start with the energy transition before we've figured it all out, including storage for the winter and at night.

Let's just build solar panels and wind mills and see how far we can go with that :D much more productive that way.

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[–] AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago
[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 27 points 1 week ago

Vegan restaurants and tiktok chefs do infinitely more for veganism than posters.

[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago

Dont get caught up in labels. If you want to vegetarian but don’t want to give up bacon just do it. Doesn’t matter what you label it it’s just a diet.

[–] xtools@programming.dev 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

i always wanted to quit smoking, but couldn't drop the first cigarette with my morning coffee. it took me way too long to make peace with that single cigarette, turns out i can easily forgoe the other 19 I've been smoking every day

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[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I eat more veggies and less meat than ever

That's down to iterative changes.

If the only option was a hard-line cold-turkey (lol) approach, I'd very likely have never changed a thing

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[–] anticapitalistpenguin@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Anything worth doing is worth doing poorly

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[–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 week ago (9 children)

When the vegetarian option becomes cheaper and tastes just as good though, continuing to eat the meat version is an explicit choice.

[–] pahlimur@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I think there is also a cooking skills gap no one acknowledges. For example tofu is way different than chicken/beef/pork. Scares a lot of people away because poorly cooked tofu is 100x worse than poorly cooked meat.

Our family eats about half vegetarian because the cost difference is still minimal and variety is fun. Animals are also way more evil than most people realize. Cows are basically the only one that won't eat it's friend when they are bored. Not saying it justifies earing them, but I've never understood why vegans put animals on a pedestal.

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[–] madrabeagdubh@piefed.social 19 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Because that's plant-based plus bacon. Veganism is an ethos, not a diet.

[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (12 children)

Silly downvoters. You're absolutely right. Veganism has diet as a component, but at its core is a desire to limit harm to animals in every possible aspect.

If you eat only plants/mushrooms, but still buy leather shoes, down pillows, or wool socks - that's not veganism, that's just following a plant-based diet. The two concepts overlap, but they are distinct from each other.

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[–] Bluewing@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Unless someone is a on a serious carnivore diet, then we probably eat "vegan" more than we realize.

I had an English muffin with some homemade wild raspberry jam and a banana with my tea this morning. I have already planned an Indian lentil curry and rice for supper tonight. I don't know what I'm having for dinner today, but I could have a peanut butter and jelly sandwich I suppose.

A whole day without meat. Not that I actually considered doing that because "vegan." But because that's what sounds good to eat today. Tomorrow, maybe some smoked oyster stuffed venison loin chops for supper perhaps or some eggs and bacon for breakfast.

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[–] peteypete420@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 week ago

I support small changes for self improvement. Buying pints instead of fiths is a start.

[–] luciferofastora@feddit.org 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

FUCK YES to oat milk. I love oat milk. I also love cheese and haven't really found a good substitute yet, but oat milk is the GOAT milk.

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[–] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

Moderation is my favorite word

I am very fun at parties

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[–] Drekaridill@lemmy.wtf 14 points 1 week ago (25 children)

This is kinda why I'm doing. If I see a vegetarian option for something, I'll pick that over the meat option. Vegetarian sausages are definitely not all created equal...

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[–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 week ago (3 children)

To this day I've stabilized around vegetarian + the occasional pepperoni pizza.

I've been more, I've been less. Maybe the next step is cutting out some more dairy somehow.

[–] Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 week ago (7 children)

I find oat milk is just way better than regular milk anyhow

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[–] jambudz@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 week ago (36 children)

The vegans mostly hate this. Which is probably why no one cares about outspoken vegans

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[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (10 children)

Vegans will hate me for this but I only eat animals that I don't find particularly cute.

I don't eat pig or cow meat because they are beautiful, intelligent animals with great personalities. I do eat lamb because I've worked on sheep farms and they are dumb assholes. I eat chicken because they are basically vicious dinosaurs who would eat me if our sizes were reversed.

I've yet to get first hand experience with live sausages in their natural environment so I proceed with caution on a case by case basis.

[–] Nighed@feddit.uk 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Uh, I have bad news on where sausages come from....

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago
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