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[–] BluJay320@lemmy.blahaj.zone 33 points 2 years ago (2 children)

OG paintball

This just makes me wonder why paintball dueling isn’t a bigger thing

[–] PlasmaDistortion@lemm.ee 14 points 2 years ago

This should be an Olympic sport.

[–] SARGEx117@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

One of the only two times I've ever been, we used a cattle field to separate into two teams and everyone had to pull off their hopper, load one at a time, and march toward each other while firing.

Unfortunately we didn't have anyone calling for firing lines and whatnot, but if I ever go with enough people to do this again, definitely going to be a thing.

[–] BluJay320@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This sounds glorious, but I meant 1v1 duels. 10 paces and such

And then if both miss, they go at each other with Nerf swords

[–] TheLordHumungus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Uh HEMA, SCA, or fencing.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Wasn't that originally part of the Olympics?

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

One of the early Olympics had it, I think, but not many. Maybe only one?

[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It was in the 1908 Olympics, and they used wax dummies.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I would like to know more.

[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Ok in 1906 at a different competition is there this picture was taken and they shot at each other

[–] roguetrick@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I want a double breasted paintball smock

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You just wanted an excuse to say "smock", right?

[–] pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 years ago

Smock smock smock smock smock smock

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If it wasn't for the fact that the BATF has decided that simunitions are too dangerous for civilians, you could still do this. There's a company that produces non-lethal ammunition that can be used in certain models of regular firearms--with modifications--so that you can quite safely shoot someone at near-contact ranges. Obviously your long range accuracy is not great. It will break skin, but so will AirSoft.

[–] pelletbucket@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I'm told servicemembers do fast draw routines with simunitions. apparently the trick is to start firing immediately and the recoil will bring your muzzle up faster

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

...That is not something that you would ever do. Where are those bullets going when you're not on-target? Even if you don't hit an unintended target, that's wasted ammunition, and you aren't carrying an infinite amount. Trust me when I say that carrying 6 pistol magazines each loaded with 20 rounds, in addition to a chest carrier with 7 fully loaded M4 magazines starts getting heavy.

I've done a little IDPA--and will be doing more--and that kind of shit would get you tossed out of a match IMMEDIATELY. If you spend enough time practicing, you don't need to do that anyways; part of the air marshal qualification course involves drawing a pistol from concealment, and firing a single shot on target-at 7y-in 1.15 seconds or less. High-level USPSA shooters can complete Bill drills from draw in under 2.

[–] pelletbucket@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

these were soldiers fucking around with wax bullets during training. this was not a combat simulation

[–] FireTower@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Here's a 11 minute video on the topic for anyone interested:

https://youtu.be/KWlAIcwxxD0?si=qvRvSHc4m-sjSSAx

[–] JackOfAllTraits@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I can't believe that was not a rickroll!

[–] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

How do wax bullets work? Do they not melt from the act of being fired at high speed and heat?

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Pour a low charge of black powder in there. You ain't trying to hit a Confederate or deer at 200-yards. It'll still be plenty fast and straight at short range.

When stuffing the wax bullet in, precede it with a wad more like a shotgun wad instead of a flimsy piece of cloth? That would keep the charge from directly bathing your wax in hellfire.

SOURCE: Educated guess from a BP and shotgun nerd.

[–] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ah, so the wad takes the heat and gives the wax the force. Which likely keeps the wax cool enough to survive the flight.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

Still going to have wax in your barrel rifling. 🤷🏻‍♂️ May not matter when you next put lead down the pipe. Hot lead will clean it up in any case!

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Heat can only be transferred so fast. So no, only the very surface.

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Depends on the exact makeup of the wax, I would guess.