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    [–] rozodru@piefed.social 75 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    as someone who is a dev by trade I update/backup on fridays because I think it's funny.

    [–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

    It's always funny, until that one day where it isn't

    PC-LOAD-LETTER, wtf does that mean?!

    e: You guys are making me feel old for not getting this reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_Space

    [–] snooggums@piefed.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    For those that don't know:

    PC = Printer Cartridge (the place where you put ink or paper for it to use)

    Letter = 8 1/2 x 11 inch letter sized paper, which is similar to A4

    So the message means to load letter sized paper in the printer cartridge, because the sensor says it is empty.

    [–] Fuck_u_spez_@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 weeks ago

    PC in this context stands for Paper Cassette, an old HP term for the paper tray.

    [–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

    It means you need more paper.

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    [–] muhyb@programming.dev 52 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
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    [–] velxundussa@sh.itjust.works 36 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
    [–] festnt@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    but "yay" already does that

    [–] Cort@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
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    [–] dastechniker@lemmy.world 34 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    I have a script I run daily (named daily) that makes a timeshift backup, checks for updates from pacman, then checks for updates from the AUR. I'm very fond of it :]

    [–] jimerson@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    Does paru -Syu not also include pacman, or do you just prefer to do pacman first?

    [–] dastechniker@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    I have never heard of paru until this very moment. I will look into it, thanks!

    [–] jimerson@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

    Heck yeah! I hope it helps simplify things!

    This might be the first time my limited Linux knowledge has been helpful to an internet stranger. Feels good.

    [–] ArchAengelus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

    I’ve been using yay for years, and it is sufficient. First time I’ve heard of paru.

    Other than being written in rust, how does paru improve the experience of AUR wrapping?

    [–] dastechniker@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

    Googling it, it just seems like yay but in rust and it shows PKGBUILD by default. Still cool to find alternative tools though

    [–] jimerson@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    To be honest, it's just what I've been using since I switched to Cachy half a year ago. There was no conscious decision made between yay or paru.

    I think Go and Rust are both great languages, but there are apparently some speed benefits from using rust/paru. That's not anything I can factually confirm, just what I've heard.

    [–] ranzispa@mander.xyz 5 points 2 weeks ago

    I doubt that speed in a package manager would depend greatly on programming language choice. A package manager downloads the repository index, evaluates your current environment, decides what packages you need and then downloads them. You may get minor speed improvements due to a more performing programming language, but we're talking about milliseconds differences in a process that likely takes several minutes. I wouldn't take that into account when choosing across options. Indeed speed can greatly vary across package managers, but that mainly depends on implementation; as such you may have a package manager implemented in a slower language that is faster than one implemented in a faster language.

    If I have to choose a package manager, I wouldn't even consider speed and rather evaluate functionality. I don't know paru, I imagine it allows doing what yay allows doing and as such I'd be satisfied with either of them.

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    [–] Lembot_0006@programming.dev 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    When I am bored. A few times per month in winter. Once or twice per summer.

    [–] ekZepp@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

    We are still talking about updates, right?

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    [–] wltr@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

    I do sudo pacman -Syu as a ritual each time when I start my computer or laptop. Like, the very first thing after the system is booted. So far so good, been doing that for 7 years.

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    [–] tal@lemmy.today 10 points 2 weeks ago

    My Debian trixie desktop system rotates /var/log/apt/history once a month. So over the past year:

    $ zgrep upgrade /var/log/apt/history.log*gz|wc -l
    25
    $ ls /var/log/apt/history.log*gz|wc -l
    12
    $
    

    25 upgrades in 12 months. So about twice a month on average on that one.

    [–] flameleaf@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
    [–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)
    [–] flameleaf@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

    yay every day

    At most once per day. Sometimes I can go three weeks without remembering to upgrade

    [–] rtxn@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

    My home PC, about once a week, or whenever I have to install new software. My work PC, about once a month because the nvidia driver takes fucking ages to update because of DKMS.

    As for the servers under my professional care... it depends. Most of the servers that I made run Debian that I update three times a year whenever the downtime is acceptable for the university (spring break, late summer, early december) or if a CVE needs fixing (e.g. xz-utils). One internet-facing server that I inherited still runs Ubuntu 16.04 because some teachers can't possibly live without some legacy software and will throw a tantrum if upgrading is even mentioned -- that one gets zero updates, and I got the dean's promise in writing that I wouldn't be held responsible for it.

    The big virtualization server still runs ESXi 6 because the university didn't want to pay for a lifetime license when it was available, doesn't want to pay for a subscription now, and doesn't want the downtime required to fully migrate to Proxmox VE. So it gets no updates. Plus it has a bad SSL cert and I need Chromium's thisisunsafe to bypass the error.

    It's fucking rough out here.

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    [–] palordrolap@fedia.io 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    For me, it's about reducing the amount of time the "update available" icon shows up in the system tray, because its very presence bothers me. Maybe there's something cool and new. Maybe it fixes a severe security problem. If it's for programs I'm not using right now, then the update can be applied right now. Otherwise it's going to have to wait until I'm done. And bother me.

    Yes, I could turn updates off and never see it, but that seems like a bad plan in the long run.

    [–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    Can't you update it all regardless of whether you're using it because the Linux file system leaves the old file intact and just writes a new file and updates the pointer so anything still using the old file carries on as if nothing happened and just gets the update the next time you run it?

    [–] palordrolap@fedia.io 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    This is true. But then I'm not using the latest version while I still have an active session, and that can lead to weird behaviour or errors after the fact.

    Case in point, I once received an Xorg update that I allowed to install, but didn't restart the computer properly until much, much later.

    By then I'd forgotten about the update, so when I restarted and started having graphics problems, I was mystified.

    I've also forgotten how that all panned out, but in the same situation I'd roll back to a previous Timeshift snapshot and work the system forward again until I find the culprit or things are stable, so I assume that's what I did back then.

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    [–] syaochan@feddit.it 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    I've set up unattended upgrades and forgot about updates, until I get a mail saying they happened.

    [–] tal@lemmy.today 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    Note that at least on Debian, the unattended-upgrades package only, by default, does security updates. While those are the most important ones, if you want various bugfixes and such, you probably do want to at least occasionally do an update yourself.

    [–] syaochan@feddit.it 7 points 2 weeks ago

    On my laptop with LMDE, which is basically Debian, I've configured it to update everything. The only thing left out are flatpaks which I update when I remember.

    [–] l3enc@piefed.ee 6 points 2 weeks ago

    every week more or less, it's basically just as often as I remember. oh and whenever I have to update a program for security reasons, like a system wide patch or a new browser release, that sorta thing. using opensuse tumbleweed btw

    [–] sefra1@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    Once a week usually, or when I have to reboot anyway.

    [–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

    when I have to reboot anyway.

    I do the same, then you have these days: "Ok, I'll run a quick update before reboot... Updating qt-webengine?, nooooooo"

    [–] FlowerFan@piefed.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 weeks ago

    Fedora Silverblue (actually bluebuild building my own OS)

    practically only if there's a new release of a software I want to install (which zeroes out to approx all 2 months)

    [–] konim@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 weeks ago

    When someone reminds me so thanks

    [–] XaetaCore@lemmy.neondystopia.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

    I have a bash alias alias update='flatpak update ; flatpak remove --unused ; emerge --sync -a ; emerge --ask --verbose --update --deep --changed-use --keep-going --with-bdeps=y --backtrack=500 @world ; emerge --depclean ; eclean-dist -d' Which i run like update && shutdown -P now And usually in the morning i do another update to check if it missed anything

    Run the main update before i sleep computer shuts down when done and when i wake up i check what i missed

    Does the job every time 😎

    [–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

    If I’m bored and done with everything and can peacefully restart

    [–] exu@feditown.com 3 points 2 weeks ago

    paru -Syu; poweroff most evenings

    [–] oculi@anarchist.nexus 3 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

    On NixOS i do it monthly. My internet is bad and sometimes it takes me half a day to update, i don't have time to do weekly

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    [–] lennee@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

    every 5 minutes sounds about right

    [–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 3 points 2 weeks ago

    Sometimes I let a Gentoo lapse on upgrades, just for the extra fun.

    Every 1-2 weeks, depends on how often I remember

    [–] bappity@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

    sudo pacman -Sybau

    [–] kadu@scribe.disroot.org 2 points 2 weeks ago

    I use Apdatifier for KDE and it checks every 180 minutes. If there are updates, I update.

    [–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 2 points 2 weeks ago
    [–] illusionist@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 weeks ago

    Opensuse aeon - I don't do anything. Package manager handles everything

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