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[–] Heresy_generator@kbin.social 170 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

And now they've just made the anti-democracy extremist Speaker of the House.

The GOP Speaker and presumptive nominee for President are both anti-American insurrectionists who want to tear down our democracy and institute single party rule. And the oligarch-owned media will absolutely shut up about it and pretend it's normal.

[–] elbucho@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago

I feel like the word "the" in your first sentence is misleading. He most certainly is AN anti-democracy extremist, but by no means THE anti-democracy extremist. The Republican caucus is lousy with them.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Sounds like it's time to hit the oligarchs where it hurts: them personally.

[–] BluJay320@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 2 years ago

The face, specifically

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[–] Makeitstop@lemmy.world 106 points 2 years ago (2 children)

There's gonna be some really great attack ads running in swing districts next year. Every vulnerable moderate just got handcuffed to this guy. Now they can be accused of supporting all the most extreme, unpopular, and unlawful things in Johnson's record. And on top of that, this almost certainly means that the agenda moving forward will be dominated by things which would alienate moderates and independent voters.

Apparently the lackluster mid terms weren't enough of a wake up call. I wouldn’t be surprised if this turns out to be the moment that the Republicans lost the house. (Of course, I also wouldn’t be surprised to see the Democrats find a way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory)

[–] limelight79@lemm.ee 49 points 2 years ago

And the way Trump was controlling the vote by endorsing candidates? The whole party is shackled to him, whether they admit it or not, and I hope the Democrats go HARD on that in the next election.

[–] Flambo@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (4 children)

If the Republican party ever becomes irrelevant, Democrats will be stuck waiting to find out what their new opposition party will be. If it winds up being an actual progressive party, I don't really see what options Democrats would be left with. Either they try to gain support from people leaving the Republican party, or they try to be "progressive enough" without losing corporate support?

If Democrats share that uncertainty about a post-Republican future, and if they think the way most status quo actors seem to, then I imagine they'd prefer the Republican party to hang on as long as possible.

What I think that strategy would look like: Democrats going as fiscally conservative as they can while still remaining left of Republicans. Democrats lamenting their inability to make progressive changes, all the while not investing much more than lip service towards advancing said progressive changes.

[–] quicklime@lemm.ee 19 points 2 years ago

The Democratic Party has shown very clearly that they would much rather lose to Republicans than allow their own platform to be dragged any more than just a tiny bit to the left.

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[–] TheJims@lemmy.world 100 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Truth and facts are the enemy of the Republican Party.

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[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 91 points 2 years ago

"Mike Johnson is Jim Jordan in a sports coat.”

— Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee spokesman Viet Shelton, quoted by The Atlantic.

[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 84 points 2 years ago (1 children)

100% now they will hear it more and non-stop

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago

They will hear this question whenever they present yet another insurrectionist speaker candidate. At least if the press in the US still has guts.

[–] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 66 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Powerpoint@lemmy.ca 26 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They've been emboldened since 2016

[–] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 years ago
[–] Nougat@kbin.social 58 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

American Fascist Party. Yeah, I'm going to say it over and over.

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No one can fault you for saying the truth.

[–] Nougat@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There's a handful of things I find myself having to repeat and repeat, to the point that it's starting to annoy me. I'm sure someone is going to give me shit about it real soon.

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Look. Soon enough these assholes will stop beating around the bush and make their move. It will be undeniable but they will skip right past shame and whole heartily accept the fact that yes, they actually are aligned with Nazis. I've said it before and I'll say it again. During Bush they said they weren't racist. During Trump they said they weren't fascist. Next they will say they won't attempt mass genocide.

By then it will be too late.

[–] Nougat@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago

You're not wrong. Fascism isn't coming; it's here. And every time some fascist bullshit happens without consequences, they get stronger and democracy gets weaker. Fascist leaders have seen no consequences. The American Fascist Party (I said it again) has to be called that, because not only are they refusing to eject fascists from their ranks, they are promoting them to positions of real power.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 52 points 2 years ago (3 children)

It's the party that worships the constitution ordering the Press on what they can and cannot do

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 34 points 2 years ago

To be fair, they're allowed to tell the press anything. I'm totally OK with that. I'm more upset by the fact they worship and swore to uphold the constitution and then tried to overthrow democracy, and now don't want to talk about it. Either it was a good thing and be proud of it and own it (it wasn't, but in their opinion...), or it was bad and a mistake and you should speak out about it and warn others not to make the same mistake.

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There you go thinking Republicans care about anything again. This is the party of power, nothing more. If they ever tell you they believe in something it's because you believing they believe in that something will get them more power.

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[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Don't confuse "likes to selectively cite it in bad faith arguments" with "worships".

[–] RojoSanIchiban@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago

I do not wish harm upon some members of congress, but I will take pleasure in reading their obituaries.

[–] MudMan@kbin.social 20 points 2 years ago

Wait, her name is Virginia Foxx? Bold to keep her stripper name when she transitioned into politics. I guess she was invested in the brand.

[–] badbytes@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I'll give him 7days as speaker. Any bets?

[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 19 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Will be outlast the lettuce?

[–] PizzaMan@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

The next budget is due in a month, so there's a good chance he'll be gone after that.

So the lettuce has a nonzero chance of outlining his office.

While this would be hilariously humoring for most people I, opposing this fundamentalist scumbag want the debt ceiling deadline to occur without damaging the credit worthiness of the US government. So fuck them reps.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

This is Murica, use a hamberder. Just homemade, cause those fast food ones never grow mold.

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[–] bquintb@midwest.social 13 points 2 years ago
[–] YeOldeDickTwist@artemis.camp 13 points 2 years ago

Who is this geriatric cunt that yelled at that reporter to shut up lmao. In what world is that a reasonable response of she's coming from politics.

[–] uphillbothways@kbin.social 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Damn. This final season of Handmaid's Tale getting a sneaker release as an Alternate Reality "Game" (or whatever this is) was sure an interesting production choice.

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[–] MeekerThanBeaker@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

Fuck you, Virginia Foxx. Go join Diane Feinstein.

[–] Eh_I@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Where's the beef?

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 6 points 2 years ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Rep. Virginia Foxx (R-N.C.) was among a group of Republican lawmakers who shouted at a reporter who asked Vice Conference Chair and Speaker nominee Mike Johnson (R-La.)

ABC News reporter Rachel Scott was attempting to ask Johnson about his stance on the issue during a press conference Tuesday evening, after he became the latest Speaker nominee.

Johnson was surrounded by various members of the House GOP, who began to laugh and shout as Scott was asking her question.

The first two nominees, Scalise and House Judiciary Chair Jim Jordan (R-Ohio), also failed to garner enough votes.

He was one of 139 House Republicans who voted to object the 2020 election results in Arizona, Pennsylvania or both in the hours that followed the Jan. 6, 2021, insurrection at the Capitol, and was among more than 100 House Republicans to sign a 2020 amicus brief supporting a Texas lawsuit that aimed to overturn the election results in Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.

The GOP is becoming increasingly desperate in in its quest to find someone for the position former Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) was ousted in a historic vote earlier this month.


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