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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.

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INFO

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Adultification

Cops aren't supposed to be smart

Don't talk to the police.

Killings by law enforcement in Canada

Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom

Killings by law enforcement in the United States

Know your rights: Filming the police

Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)

Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.

Police lie under oath, a lot

Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak

Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street

Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States

So you wanna be a cop?

When the police knock on your door

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[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 76 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

"LAPD chief announces he won't do his job because he doesn't feel it, will face zero consequences."

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Did he take a oath to obey the government?

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It'd be pretty concerning if upholding the law isn't part of their oath.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

That is the whole point. He did and by not doing it he is violating his oath of office. Not that anyone will move to fire him.

[–] WHARRGARBL@lemmy.world 36 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Has anyone actually seen a verifiable report from a legitimate, unbiased news source of an ICE officer or Border Patrol agent being harmed due to doxxing?

The accusations are constantly repeated by federal spokespersons and right wing outlets, but I can’t find a single true example.

If doxxing danger is the excuse for masks, where is an actual account of this ever happening?

[–] Zer0_F0x@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago

If they know who you are and where you live and if they know you're against them, they WILL come and assault you and your family.

It's their own shitty behavior that they're afraid of.

[–] moonshadow@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 weeks ago

Great example of "every accusation is a confession". Makes complete sense to me that the agency tasked with hunting people down and disappearing them in the night would be worried about that kind of thing

It means that LAPD made their beds. Start chasing them too

Be safe out there, Love&Rage

[–] Zombie@feddit.uk 26 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Some of those that work forces

[–] Biffsbraincell@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 weeks ago

In 1992 it was some. Now it's damn near all.

[–] NoTagBacks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 2 weeks ago

Ah yes, the same PD that definitely isn't known for being the poster child of police brutality. May everyone echo the words written specifically for them: "fuck you, I won't do what you tell me!"

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

one armed agency approaching another armed agency to create conflict over something that would be a misdemeanor at best or an infraction

Oh so murder is a misdemeanor at best or an infraction now. That means killing cops is fine right?

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago
[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 8 points 2 weeks ago

The Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department, the law enforcement agency that patrols unincorporated Los Angeles County, said that federal law makes the department unable to enforce the ban.

This is at best a question for the DA or a court, not the chief of police. He's the top worker bee, not a decider of what could in the most tolerant interpretation be an area of ambiguous law. If he doesn't like enforcing the law as dictated by his civilian overlords and the current instructions of his corresponding court system, he should quit. And since he won't, he should be fired.

[–] Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

I'm not surprised. Cops and ICE are staffed by the same degenerate archetype.

[–] moonshadow@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 weeks ago

Way to make Seattle look good

[–] fratermus@piefed.social 3 points 2 weeks ago

Aren't LAPD the same folks that unleashed the whole SWAT idea?