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[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I agree with the post but it conveniently avoids the actual issue. They are blamed for:

  • Cost of living
  • Job availability

I’m not saying that they do affect these negatively, but that these two subjects are making life harder for regular people. So when someone sees something like “immigrants don’t affect me”, they just assume the poster is rich enough not to be squeezed like the rest of us.

Capitalism gotta have its scapegoats or else it won’t work.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I'm poor as shit and I've never been affected by immigrants raising the cost of living or taking jobs.

Raising costs are caused by greedy business owners raising prices, and the lack of jobs is caused by greedy business owners only hiring skeleton crews and making them work harder for less.

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[–] BotsRuinedEverything@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Substitute "the Confederacy" for the GOP and it makes a lot more sense. The civil war never ended. It has recently flared up from a smouldering cold war into a coup of the US government.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Bigotry.

Plain and simple.

They hate LGBTQ+ people despite their lives being in no way affected by them whatsoever. Most of them have probably never even directly interfaced with one.

Same thing for immigrants.

The American conservative movement is a racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic, and xenophobic movement.

It's a bigot cult.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (6 children)

Is it ok to be against immigration that lets people be exploited, such as h1-b without sufficient enforcement, or undocumented aliens where the person is at risk but the employer is not. We can fix it by better support of employee rights regardless of immigration status

[–] lovely_reader@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

I think that means you're against exploitation, not immigration...

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[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Have you ever considered being a giant racist dick though?

[–] turbowafflz@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

darn immigrants come into our country with their "high quality", "delicious" food and make our all american cheez whiz sandwiches look bad

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They clearly think cruelty is a zero sum game. If cruelty is applied to another, the cruelty to them is reduced.

They are wrong. The machine knows no bounds. Your boot on another's face does not remove the boot from your own.

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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Well, there was this German guy who immigrated to America evading the draft in Germany for ~~WWI~~ some war I'm not sure of.

This guy had a son in America, who in turn had another son.

The name that the original immigrant took when he moved to America was Trump.

Another example would be the Austrian painter by the name of Adolf, who immigrated to Germany.

[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 months ago

Rob Schneider

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 months ago

And my god, so much good food

[–] Mrkawfee@feddit.uk 4 points 2 months ago

Has she tuned into Nick Fuentes. The answer is: racism.

[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Corporations illegally hire undocumented immigrants, therefore reducing the cost of labor and stealing jobs from americans

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[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Read how the Nazis came to power you need a boogie man to blame and tell people to fear.

[–] fallaciousBasis@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

"they impregnate (who's kidding? they will say rape) our daughters"

Then something something blood purity. Probably come up with racial slurs for the baby and the mother as one if those 'insert slur'-'fuckers.'

The rednecks in America happen to do a hell of a lot of math. Oops. Meth. Not math. Well I guess they're doing math when they convert fractions into decimals.

[–] pizza_the_hutt@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago

Whew. Please keep in mind when reading the following that I am generally pro-immigration, hate ICE, and think that most of the anti-immigrant sentiment is driven by conservative propaganda and racism. Having said that, there are serious concerns surrounding immigration, especially unchecked immigration, even if they are overshadowed by problems caused by oligarchs and late-stage capitalism. The current immigration system in the US is horribly broken and cruel, but that doesn't mean I want open borders.

Labor markets and the devaluation of blue-collar jobs. People may not realize this, but there was a time in the US (1950s and 60s) when one parent could work a blue-collar job and support a family with several children and afford a home, a car, and a middle-class lifestyle. This was the norm. If you wanted to, you could easily work your way through college with a part time job and graduate with little to no debt. Immigration is not the sole cause of this decline (you can also blame greed, the lack of unions, poor minimum wage, globalism, the rise of Chinese manufacturing and low trade barriers, etc) but it is one cause. Cheap blue-collar labor, in the form of poor immigrants, legal or otherwise, has driven down wages to poverty levels. First-generation immigrants might not mind this because US-level poverty may be preferable to poverty of their home nation, and they may be laying the groundwork for a better life for their children. Additionally, the rich love it because it lowers their labor costs, but this system of cheap labor has really screwed over the rest of the population. In exchange for the possibility of a middle-class lifestyle, the rest of us are forced to go into debt getting a college education, with no guarantee that the investment will even pay off. Even if you do score a decent job after getting a college degree, you likely still won't make enough money to support a family by yourself or buy a house.

The decline of social cohesion. Diversity is not a black-and-white issue. It's a sliding scale. Some people are comfortable with more. Some are comfortable with less. Just because you enjoy being able to eat a different ethnic cuisine every night of the week doesn't mean you want to be surrounded by people who are unable to speak your language. Generally speaking, I like living in big cities with lots of different cultures, but it's not for everyone, and I don't fault anyone for not wanting that lifestyle. Sometimes, you want to feel like you have a home and to be surrounded by people of the same culture. In some cases, unchecked, mass immigration has radically changed areas, to the point that some people no longer feel they belong in the place in which they grew up. In general, the more cultures, religions, and languages you have packed in the same area, the less social cohesion there will be. Studies have shown that it takes several generations for an immigrant population to fully assimilate into the host nation's culture, but if there is a constant, long-term influx of immigration, then it will slow the assimilation process further. While I personally think immigration and the cultural melting pot of the US is a good thing, unchecked immigration could easily change that melting pot into a fruit salad, with people of differing cultures living in "parallel" societies with little motivation to assimilate with each other.

Before anyone gets up in arms about what I wrote above, I will again stress that most of the anti-immigrant narratives coming from conservatives are designed to divide the population to the benefit of rich oligarchs, who represent a far bigger threat to the job market and social cohesion than immigration ever has or ever will.

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