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[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I agree with the post but it conveniently avoids the actual issue. They are blamed for:

  • Cost of living
  • Job availability

I’m not saying that they do affect these negatively, but that these two subjects are making life harder for regular people. So when someone sees something like “immigrants don’t affect me”, they just assume the poster is rich enough not to be squeezed like the rest of us.

Capitalism gotta have its scapegoats or else it won’t work.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I'm poor as shit and I've never been affected by immigrants raising the cost of living or taking jobs.

Raising costs are caused by greedy business owners raising prices, and the lack of jobs is caused by greedy business owners only hiring skeleton crews and making them work harder for less.

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Substitute "the Confederacy" for the GOP and it makes a lot more sense. The civil war never ended. It has recently flared up from a smouldering cold war into a coup of the US government.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (6 children)

Is it ok to be against immigration that lets people be exploited, such as h1-b without sufficient enforcement, or undocumented aliens where the person is at risk but the employer is not. We can fix it by better support of employee rights regardless of immigration status

[–] lovely_reader@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

I think that means you're against exploitation, not immigration...

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[–] melfie@lemy.lol 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

No reasonable person has an issue with legal immigration, though plenty of unreasonable ones do. As far as illegal immigration goes, even Bernie Sanders said that a country without borders is not a country and that open borders is a Koch bothers idea.

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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Bigotry.

Plain and simple.

They hate LGBTQ+ people despite their lives being in no way affected by them whatsoever. Most of them have probably never even directly interfaced with one.

Same thing for immigrants.

The American conservative movement is a racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic, and xenophobic movement.

It's a bigot cult.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They clearly think cruelty is a zero sum game. If cruelty is applied to another, the cruelty to them is reduced.

They are wrong. The machine knows no bounds. Your boot on another's face does not remove the boot from your own.

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[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Have you ever considered being a giant racist dick though?

[–] turbowafflz@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

darn immigrants come into our country with their "high quality", "delicious" food and make our all american cheez whiz sandwiches look bad

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Well, there was this German guy who immigrated to America evading the draft in Germany for ~~WWI~~ some war I'm not sure of.

This guy had a son in America, who in turn had another son.

The name that the original immigrant took when he moved to America was Trump.

Another example would be the Austrian painter by the name of Adolf, who immigrated to Germany.

[–] pizza_the_hutt@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago

Whew. Please keep in mind when reading the following that I am generally pro-immigration, hate ICE, and think that most of the anti-immigrant sentiment is driven by conservative propaganda and racism. Having said that, there are serious concerns surrounding immigration, especially unchecked immigration, even if they are overshadowed by problems caused by oligarchs and late-stage capitalism. The current immigration system in the US is horribly broken and cruel, but that doesn't mean I want open borders.

Labor markets and the devaluation of blue-collar jobs. People may not realize this, but there was a time in the US (1950s and 60s) when one parent could work a blue-collar job and support a family with several children and afford a home, a car, and a middle-class lifestyle. This was the norm. If you wanted to, you could easily work your way through college with a part time job and graduate with little to no debt. Immigration is not the sole cause of this decline (you can also blame greed, the lack of unions, poor minimum wage, globalism, the rise of Chinese manufacturing and low trade barriers, etc) but it is one cause. Cheap blue-collar labor, in the form of poor immigrants, legal or otherwise, has driven down wages to poverty levels. First-generation immigrants might not mind this because US-level poverty may be preferable to poverty of their home nation, and they may be laying the groundwork for a better life for their children. Additionally, the rich love it because it lowers their labor costs, but this system of cheap labor has really screwed over the rest of the population. In exchange for the possibility of a middle-class lifestyle, the rest of us are forced to go into debt getting a college education, with no guarantee that the investment will even pay off. Even if you do score a decent job after getting a college degree, you likely still won't make enough money to support a family by yourself or buy a house.

The decline of social cohesion. Diversity is not a black-and-white issue. It's a sliding scale. Some people are comfortable with more. Some are comfortable with less. Just because you enjoy being able to eat a different ethnic cuisine every night of the week doesn't mean you want to be surrounded by people who are unable to speak your language. Generally speaking, I like living in big cities with lots of different cultures, but it's not for everyone, and I don't fault anyone for not wanting that lifestyle. Sometimes, you want to feel like you have a home and to be surrounded by people of the same culture. In some cases, unchecked, mass immigration has radically changed areas, to the point that some people no longer feel they belong in the place in which they grew up. In general, the more cultures, religions, and languages you have packed in the same area, the less social cohesion there will be. Studies have shown that it takes several generations for an immigrant population to fully assimilate into the host nation's culture, but if there is a constant, long-term influx of immigration, then it will slow the assimilation process further. While I personally think immigration and the cultural melting pot of the US is a good thing, unchecked immigration could easily change that melting pot into a fruit salad, with people of differing cultures living in "parallel" societies with little motivation to assimilate with each other.

Before anyone gets up in arms about what I wrote above, I will again stress that most of the anti-immigrant narratives coming from conservatives are designed to divide the population to the benefit of rich oligarchs, who represent a far bigger threat to the job market and social cohesion than immigration ever has or ever will.

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Read how the Nazis came to power you need a boogie man to blame and tell people to fear.

[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 weeks ago

Rob Schneider

[–] fallaciousBasis@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

"they impregnate (who's kidding? they will say rape) our daughters"

Then something something blood purity. Probably come up with racial slurs for the baby and the mother as one if those 'insert slur'-'fuckers.'

The rednecks in America happen to do a hell of a lot of math. Oops. Meth. Not math. Well I guess they're doing math when they convert fractions into decimals.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 weeks ago

And my god, so much good food

[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Corporations illegally hire undocumented immigrants, therefore reducing the cost of labor and stealing jobs from americans

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[–] Mrkawfee@feddit.uk 4 points 2 weeks ago

Has she tuned into Nick Fuentes. The answer is: racism.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Adds demand for resources. Demand for jobs reduces wages and increases unemployment. Demand for housing and land increases prices. It accelerates inflation significantly, especially when birth rates in the population are low. Increased energy draw from the grid, which is usually running near capacity nowadays anyway due to the industrial revolution 2.0. Increased load on hospitals. All the typical problems associated with population growth, without any time to adapt because you're bringing in a lot of people who need things suddenly and not gradually as they're growing up and moving out of home.

Most people are already struggling with cost of living issues and inflation, some of these people want to clamp down on immigration to control growth. In Australia immigration is one of several factors causing some of the most expensive housing and rents on Earth. It doesn't help that other factors include supply reductions because our builders all collapsed during covid.

Govts generally see growth as good, a numbers go up game.

This isn't even touching on other reasons people might have for thinking that way too, like erosion of culture when rates are high instead of integration into culture when rates are low

[–] Saprophyte@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, i mean for instance, all native American culture has been pushed out of America and most of the European immigrants that moved here replaced the cultures and religions of the native population. It really has been awful to force them out and replace them with what is here now. We barely know anything about the vast numbers of people who used to occupy the lands we currently claim to own because the immigrant governments murdered them and forced them out before settling here.

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