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I'm glad for the EU, California, and other places that are big enough to force this sort of stuff nationally or globally.
Every so often the phrase "where California goes the nation follows" comes true. I had a feeling about this one, but not so soon nor decisively.
Apple »claims« they will honor ‘right to repair’ – just like they claim their latest devices are ‘carbon neutral’
this is a ruleset though, and it's likely much cheaper for them to produce one SKU for the US rather than two, a california rule abiding one, and a rest of the country one.
Right, this is absolutely because it’s cheapest for them to adopt across their product line and their PR team is trying to spin it like they are doing it for altruistic reasons. It’s the same with USB-C. Once forced by the EU, it was announced all iPhones would use usb-c, same situation
Their carbon neutral claims are a stretch, but they did massively reduce their carbon footrprint in addition to using offsets. The majority of the reduction is from using green energy at their factories and no longer using air shipping.
Not by choice
Didn't they influence the creation of this law? I'm still sceptical of its effectiveness.
Yes, thats what Louis Rossman said. I get my news from Louis 🤣
That's what the smart ones do I hear
It is not wise to solely take news at face value. I always do a little digging into something whenever I hear any news on it myself.
I'd say that from what I've seen, Louis isn't interested in spreading disinformation.
But I would also still do a little digging; it's just a healthy way to process the content you consume. If you aren't willing to audit your opinion, then your opinion holds little water in an objective conversation.
He's definitely not and I would agree with the sentiment that he is a reliable source of information, but remember that all people make mistakes sometimes. Treat the news as a notification, not a source of information.
What really makes him credible is he literally calls himself out in videos when information changes or he makes mistakes.
- "When I said, xyz, don't listen to me. I was wrong/lied."
- " [company name] changed their stance/policy and my previous statements are outdated."
He also tells viewers and readers all the time to come to their own conclusions and do their own research.
He also comes clean and informs his viewers if it turns out he made a mistake which I appreciate
Too bad I still need a hammer and chisel to replace the keyboard on my MacBook and don't even get me started on removing the battery which I need to do first
Same thing happened with net neutrality, California put NN into law, and the rest of the country followed because it doesn't make sense to build a separate Internet for California.
I understand this as the California Effect and similarly the Brussels effect. While both do change company policies, I do understand that many companies are going to continues to try and avoid a regulatory ruling as there is so much status quo market loss on the line for them.
This article describes how they'll be trying to use MOUs with nongovernment bodies to mollify consumers and regulators.
That's great. I'm still gonna avoid everything Apple.
The iPod Touch 7 was great.. but then they decided it didn't actually deserve long term support even though it was the last version they'd be making. So go ahead and come out with an iPod Touch 8, Apple, but I won't be trusting enough to buy it after getting burnt.
iPod touches were great for giving kids a small device without needing a cell connection. You could give them a iPhone without service but they cost way too damn much for that.
Ehhh with eu sideloading, right to repair and generally a good phone it looks like a good deal but i also think full software liberty(you can replace the software on it) is a part of RTR and i dont know if thats ever gonna happen especially with even android phones getting more and more restricted.
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They get to sell their parts without having to pay all of the repair people and probably getting out of a certain amount of warranty liability. Win-win-win for them.
And people repairing their own stuff is always a good idea. People learning how to maintain their electronics is never a bad thing! Everyone should pick up a soldering iron at some point. :)
While in complete agreement that it's good the option is there, have definitely interacted with plenty of end users who, for various reasons, really should never.
Hey, some people learn from their mistakes. Hell, my first PC build (23 years ago…) was DOA because I had inadvertently bent a pin on the CPU, and it got smashed when I tightened down the cooler. That was an expensive mistake, but one I certainly learned from.
Thank god PGA is officially dead, finally. My first Ryzen cpu came in the mail with bent pins, I spent fucking hours straightening all of them. Worth it tho, got 5 years of life out of it between me and my brother before it was finally allowed to rest and spend the rest of it's life on a shelf(it still works, its just slow).
Not that I fully disagree, just that there's a reason they didn't do it before. Probably more profitable to not have repairable devices. Not that they won't try to make the best of the current situation, as you said.
Also, it would likely be more expensive to produce a line of repairable products just for one state and do different for the others, so this is the best way of spinning this.
Like they have a choice. Even Apple can't manufacture separate devices for specifically for California.
yeah. not because it's right, but because it's cheaper.
Heh like it was California they were worried about. EU was harassing them about it way before that and they shat a brick
What does this mean regarding their components pairing? Will they still force indepent repair shops to go through apple to validate a repair by requesting a new pairing for the replaced part? Will it be free? Will it depend on whether the part is a genuine apple part? A salvaged one? A third party part?
you now have the right to repair with only their parts, which is progress, albeit minimal and expensive
Here, you can buy a screen for 80% of the cost of a new iPhone.
4 choices: don’t sell in CA, fight the law, make a separate phone to meet R2R laws that are likely going to become more prevalent, release a press report portraying magnanimity towards R2R and make the bare minimum effort to meet the law.
The last is the only real answer.
they saw the writing on the wall and decided to get ahead of it, by agreeing to locked down firmware apple only replacement parts, which isn't a full right to repair, but it does extend the life of an apple device, if you pay the apple tax
Damn this is huge.
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