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[–] BillyClark@piefed.social 122 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

I'm sure the poster pulled these numbers out of their ass. I wonder what the real numbers would be.

It's guaranteed that replacing MAGA people with the same kind of immigrants we have today would reduce crime, but how much?

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 42 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, that's my reaction too. I'm guessing over 50% is likely true. The immigrants that make it here in the vast majority of cases is literally because they were hard workers and they came to work. Vs these violent racist shitbags who support trump.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 32 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

It's almost impossible to say without really breaking down policing and crime rates by granular particulars that I'm not sure we really track with accuracy, as the US's crime tracking is massively skewed because of things like over-policing, redlining/segregation remnants (an actual nazi on Lemmy actually pulled the 13/50 argument with me today) and of course under-reporting some crimes and over-reporting other crimes. Basically, our criminal justice system is so fucked in America that we can't trust stats... so yeah, OP's image might as well just make numbers up, it's not like we have highly trustworth alternatives.

As for actual numbers, I did find this report from 2023 that seems somewhat reliable, it massively points to white families as the number one perpetrator in crimes against children in the US. (these stats include neglect, which is why women have a higher percentage of perpetration than men.)

Rates of just immigrant criminality have been studied, and as most of us know, it's been shown that immigrants commit far less crime than native populations, and are about 60% less likely to be incarcerated for criminal behavior.

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

It doesn't help that for a lot of minority communities, crimes against children and domestic issues often just go unreported.

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[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 4 points 2 weeks ago

agreed, honestly what I would really like someone to do if they are able, get a large enough sample size of ice enforcers names and run background checks. So we can demonstrate side by side the percentage of people with histories of violent offences and property crimes, next to the low percentage of illegal immigrants going out. On a practical level it's obvious how it will pan out, but posting things with "trust me bro".

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[–] shittydwarf@piefed.social 54 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

But then who would get all the DUIs? Checkmate libs!

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

Our prison system will fail!

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Dodge Ram trucks just do that. They have FSDUI built in, so if no ones driving those it solves like three problems.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So you're saying a side effect of this would be defunding the police

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[–] nocturne@slrpnk.net 32 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Why stop at age 50? Go all the way.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 31 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I assume (or at least, I hope) that they're basing this on some kind of violent crime rate statistics, hence the cut-off.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

It would be nice to include a source for posts like this, to help prevent it being labeled as propaganda if the numbers are legit.

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 12 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

There's no way those numbers are legit.

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[–] unclejeeves@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

My thoughts exactly. Political affiliation is not a statistical crime category collected by law enforcement, so I'd like to see the source behind these numbers as well.

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[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The stats are way off, so I'm curious where they got those numbers.

[–] Nikelui@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

My gut tells me "it was revealed to them in a dream"

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[–] tangonov@lemmy.ca 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

She's kidding herself if she thinks immigrants have more respect for women but it's a nice thought

[–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

There's definitely countries that treat their women better than the average American.

[–] tangonov@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Are they the countries that need to emmigrate for a better life?

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[–] switcheroo@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Let's just deport all MAGAts. They're easily replaceable, seeing as how they're worthless.

Then people will be standing in line for years to get in to this place. Oh man, sign me the fuck up.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 7 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Yeah but who would want them.

[–] brognak@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I hear the ocean has a lot of open building space, just drop them in the middle and watch them try and pull their Atlantian empire up by the bootstraps.

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[–] Chippys_mittens@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

Someone hasn't looked at crime statistics at any point in their life.

[–] RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Blackfeathr@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Can confirm; plenty of abusive/criminal MAGA women out there.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 weeks ago

Basically, every Karen, to start.

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[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I for one would gladly trade Magatards for immigrants any day.

[–] Insekticus@aussie.zone 7 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

But let's be real, which sane country would accept a horde of entitled, violent, lazy, self-righteous child-abusing cis white Christian males?

Probably easier to just go dump them out at sea.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Send them to Mars with Musk. Watch from satellite as they cannibalize themselves out of existence within a year.

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[–] CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

Look fuck ICE, try them in court and hang them. 

But this is an absurd statement.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

A woman on Instagram made an excellent point. In the past few years in UK and Ireland, anti-immigration protests happened whenever children and women are attacked by immigrants. However, how come these same protesters don't come out for female victims of domestic abuse or sexually assaulted? Oh yeah I know, because for them, they treat someone who looks different as being worse and held to different standards. It signals "only we can treat our women bad! Fuck off they're ours, foreigners! Moreover, xenophobia is also a projection to bigots' own insecurities. They look for someone deemed weaker to lash out to because they could not be anymore angrier and hateful to themselves. It is our lizard brain putting us on our leash and being enslaved to emotions.

[–] Tilgare@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

I might have blocked her at this point - I used to see Annie's posts constantly. She's absolutely right, I just can not STAND the Facebook Boomer style of images she posts.

[–] ThunderclapSasquatch@startrek.website 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Why only MAGA men? Why do the MAGAets get a free pass?

[–] Tilgare@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

Physical and sexual violence are VASTLY more prevelant from men than from women. And the sort of people who support hateful ideologies like MAGA are by and large, awful people. So while MAGAets might be awful people on average, they're not committing near as much violence.

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[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Yeah because outside of America there are no criminals, there is no crime, it's just a complete paradise in the whole of the world, there's no CJNG, CDS Los Zetas, Boko Haram, Vodou killing almost 200 elderly because "witchcraft,” none of that; there's no countries with Sharia law that still stone women to death for being raped, noooo, and all those women's trials totally have lawyers and are totally fair.

C'mon lmao. I don't like Maga idiots either but they're far from the only criminals in the world.

[–] ADTJ@feddit.uk 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah everywhere has criminals but it's not picking people at random from other countries.

The type of people who want to migrate somewhere usually do not want to stir up trouble in their new home.

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[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Yes, this is the sort of insanity some of the dumbest people left-of-center seem to genuinely believe. Or perhaps this is the sort of insanity that sock puppet bots from Russia are spreading to make them look bad.

Don't be like them if you want to make it more probable that your side wins.

[–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 weeks ago

No one actually believes this, they just say it on the internet and it gets upvoted.

[–] mrslt@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

I'm okay with this.

[–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Deport them where though? Maybe Mars?

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Lol, is this from Command & Conquer?

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[–] king_comrade@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Oof this thread is ripe for 13/52 trollposting 😬

[–] ComradeRachel@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 weeks ago

Technically we probably would have lower crime if we only let vetted people in who have gone through an immigration process be within the USA and like got rid of bad people who happened to be born here but that’s obviously not how things work or would work in a magical world.

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