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So we've gone up from 4th Amendment violations to the 5th Amendment. Soon it'll be 6th, and the 13th is a little shaky.

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 173 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If any group has zero rights, all it takes to remove anyone's rights is attaching them to that group.

It's an all or nothing thing

[–] Zombie@feddit.uk 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

https://youtu.be/Edaz7CUAZg8

If one of us us chained, none of us are free.

[–] notwhoyouthink@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 months ago

You don’t understand liberty until someone speaks for yours.

-N.E.R.D., Drill Sergeant

[–] saimen@feddit.org 101 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Your constitution is worthless when you have an executive branch that doesn't care about it while having an overly loyal majority support of the legislative and judicative branch.

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It also takes complicity from the "opposition" party. Even with the loyalty of the legislative and judicial branch their actions should be moderated by the balancing quality in the Democratic process of "turn around is fair play".

Meaning that you don't want to do anything that gives grounds for your opposition to copy if they were to get into power. The problem being that the DNC has shown itself to not have a spine, equating tit for tat politics as beneath their dignity.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

fuck right off.

There's room for real discussion of the democrat's failings. This in particular did not make it into that cup.

I get what you're trying to do with constant vitriol aimed at dems around every corner. We're still going to work to defeat the fascists with or without you.

There is no third party that's going to win in 2028 or 2030. Ranked choice is great, but we're still just working on continuing fptp for an election or two. We have immediate problems that need to be dealt with, and intentionally or unintentionally, you're not helping.

If the Dems had control of the Supreme Court OR the Executive OR Congress, this wouldn't be happening. They don't. They hold some culpability for that, but they're not directly responsible for every shitty thing the nazis do.

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 14 points 2 months ago

There's room for real discussion of the democrat's failings. This in particular did not make it into that cup.

Over two decades of thirdway politics has no complicity in creating the situation we find ourselves in?

get what you're trying to do with constant vitriol aimed at dems around every corner. We're still going to work to defeat the fascists with or without you.

Ohh yeah.... Because one valid complaint is constant vitriol? You can fight that strawman instead of making a valid rebuttal if you want to.

The house willing to vote to fund ice is surely a sign of fighting fascist.

There is no third party that's going to win in 2028 or 2030. Ranked choice is great, but we're still just working on continuing fptp for an election or two. We have immediate problems that need to be dealt with, and intentionally or unintentionally, you're not helping.

When did I say anything about voting for a third party? Who are you arguing with?

Making valid criticism against any party is important... Most importantly your own. The DNC isn't going to move away from thirdway centrism unless they hear from it from their own voters.

If the Dems had control of the Supreme Court OR the Executive OR Congress, this wouldn't be happening.

If dems supported progressive candidates instead of centerist they wouldn't have lost the supreme court or the legislative branch...

They hold some culpability for that, but they're not directly responsible for every shitty thing the nazis do.

Did I say they hold all the culpability...or are you just arguing against another strawman of your own making again?

Thirdway politics is the reason the Republican party feels emboldened enough to be fascist in the first place. When the common people can't differentiate between the two parties because both sides are just looking out for the top tax bracket then they are going to only care about punishing scapegoats.

[–] FUCKING_CUNO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 months ago

Why are you apologizing for them? They've dropped the ball in too many ways to list.

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[–] Steve@startrek.website 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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[–] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 months ago

It was been by rich white men for rich white men.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 70 points 2 months ago (3 children)

So, if we ignore that 4th amendment violation and note how often this administration violated the 1st amendment, I will note that 1 + 5 + 6 + 13 = a 25th amendment solution.

You can't argue that math! (Literally, it can't be argued with!)

[–] Soulphite@reddthat.com 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I won't argue with you on that math.. but unfortunately the pedophile certainly can argue against the 25th... he is unfortunately livid enough to deny it.

[–] ulkesh@piefed.social 15 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Livid, or lucid?

Either way, there isn't anyone in the executive with a spine, so the 25th is never going to happen, anyway.

The only way the fascist pedo will be removed is via impeachment and force, or on Jan 20, 2029, but again likely by force. And the only way impeachment would happen is if Dems get a majority in the House (could happen) and exceed 2/3 majority in the Senate which is unlikely to happen.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

There is another way. God has the final veto on his performance, after all. Perhaps He will send His Last Cheeseburger soon, to redeem us all.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago
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[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not lucid, but no one who has the legal power to invoke it wants to threaten what they're getting from him staying in position. It's not just Trump; I'd say that he isn't the real problem, just a symptom allowed to persist because of the rot elsewhere.

[–] ulkesh@piefed.social 4 points 2 months ago

100%. Rot is everywhere. And while it began decades ago, it was exponentially sped up due to the Citizens United decision.

[–] Soulphite@reddthat.com 5 points 2 months ago

Ah yes lucid. Im too livid to be lucid enough to use correct terminology. Thanks.

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[–] ChillPenguin@lemmy.world 57 points 2 months ago

"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." -JFK

[–] Rhoeri@piefed.world 50 points 2 months ago (2 children)

This shit will happen every day from now on until something is done about it- and complaining doesn’t seem to be the solve.

[–] mirshafie@europe.pub 25 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I hate to admit this but I'm terrified to go beyond complaining. I don't want to have to fight these fucking ghouls. But I guess the pool of options is evaporating.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Don't fight these ghouls. They are a symptom; oligarchs are the disease.

Register your complaint with the richest person within driving distance.

[–] cheesybuddha@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

I remember this one guy registered a complaint with a CEO and it basically turned him into a national heartthrob

[–] Rhoeri@piefed.world 10 points 2 months ago (22 children)

I feel ya. But doing noting hasn’t really moved the needle much. Complacency teaches repetition.

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[–] Strider@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

As a German I wish you all the best and hope you can avoid the worst.

It won't be easy.

[–] Butterphinger@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (19 children)

Maybe we should twerk in the street some more and keep begging Democrats.

/s for fuck's sake.

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[–] disregardable@lemmy.zip 34 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

In my local jail, it can take up to a week to be able to call someone but typically more like 3 days. This is because the phones in the holding cells are often broken, so you need to wait until after bail is set and you go upstairs, and then they charge money to make the calls. Meaning, if you don't have an account already set up, you're going to have to wait until someone is willing to show you how to set it up. That's just for regular criminal issues.

[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 23 points 2 months ago (4 children)

When someone requests an attorney, all questioning stops dead. If they continue on, it becomes fruit of the poisonous tree.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 22 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Believe it or not but most cops aren't as virtuous as Stabler and don't have a pretty blonde DA around to challenge them over what they would be willing to do to seek justice. And a "good" attorney can often work around that.

But also, that doesn't change anything. From skimming the article, it sounds like he wasn't being interrogated without a lawyer. He was just being left to languish in confinement. Which... is how the us legal system "works".

This is less "ice are bad" and more "all cops are bastards"

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 months ago

If they continue on, it becomes fruit of the poisonous tree.

so just shoot them or strangle them in holding. That's what is going on.

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[–] switcheroo@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago

Kidnapping. That's kidnapping.

When these fuckers finally get taken down, the "I WaZ OnLy FoLlOwInG OrDURzzz" will fall on deaf ears with zero public empathy.

Get fucked brown shirts!

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 months ago

Why even talk about any constitution when your government doesn't care about any laws?

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Find a good lawyer and sue the fuck out of them.

[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

That's about a good a 42 U.S. Code § 1983 claim as I can imagine.

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If they don't obey laws neither should we

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[–] RockBottom@feddit.org 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

To none Americans, mentioning someone professionally killed for the US, is not the win it’s supposed to be

[–] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 months ago

And those who "served in combat" is even worse.

Fuckers think it's a admirable thing to go to other countries and kill innocent civilians.

[–] AshMan85@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Left out 1st and 2nd

[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (12 children)

Lets just accept that none of these people know what a person rights are. Even if they do they know they don't have to honor them. Their denial of basic rights make them criminal but once again no lawful agency will act to stop it. In these circumstances there will eventually be a massacre. One that no lawful agency will act on except to punish those that are not state supported participants.

They want a civil war thinking that they can kill half of us and still have a functioning country.

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[–] eddanja@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Private Police in action paid for by the taxpayer.

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