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[–] BanMe@lemmy.world 17 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

The new Star Trek show is being called competency porn, which kind of fits this description. Although that's been Star Trek for a long time. I think folks are upset they're targeting youth with the last couple series... which, the average ST fan now being 92 years old, doesn't exactly shock me.

[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

I just didn't watch it because I heard it was bad. Also because it's only on streaming. Is it good?

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Targeting youth with: prodigy ✅ academy [I wait to binge] disco [maybe?] snw [nah] moopsy trek 2 [that's launching a full spread, not just targeting the kids]

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)
[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Moopsy trek best trek

[–] Guitarfun@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

Starfleet Academy seems like it's trying to be Harry Potter/Hogwarts. Star Trek Discovery has so much forced drama. Many of the characters are super annoying and in both shows I feel like a sense of professionalism is completely lost. Sure Starfleet isn't exactly a military organization, but it's pretty damn close and I just can't take those shows seriously. I barely made it through Discovery. It was really hard watch. Picard and Strange New Worlds were just OK.

[–] yesman@lemmy.world 12 points 17 hours ago

Media criticism has become so full of right-wing messaging, that quality-slop doesn't sound off-base. Kinda like poes law.

These CHOADS take the time to learn media-criticism jargon and aesthetics, but they use those to make single-digit 'your Dad' type complaints. The most popular being the existence of black actors.

I've seen people vehemently argue scientific accuracy in Star Wars. People are aggregated right now at the "unrealistic" casting of black actors in a Cyclops movie. Next to this insanity, quality-slop sounds pretty reasonable.

[–] SuperNovaStar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 76 points 23 hours ago (16 children)

I think I know what OOP means here. Films that people only like because they're "good movies."

I think the Avatar films fall into this category, as do most of the "Oscar bait" movies.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Avatar is not a good film and this I refuse to watch it. In this six part series I will lay out my reasoning, beginning with the moon...

[–] Honytawk@feddit.nl 1 points 28 minutes ago

I hate these kinds of "opinions".

It isn't their opinion, they copied the opinion from someone else. To have an opinion on your own you have to have actually experienced the media. Otherwise you are just judging a book by its one review.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

Out of potato

[–] Hond@piefed.social 75 points 23 hours ago (7 children)
[–] SuperNovaStar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 66 points 23 hours ago (19 children)

You know how some restaraunts have a reputation for serving "good food" (I.e. gourmet food), but just because it's fancier food it doesn't necessarily mean you'll actually like it more?

So, what are some foods that people only like because they're fancy? (I'd argue caviar is one)

Same idea, but for movies. What are some movies that people only like because they're seen as being "good movies"?

[–] Scubus@sh.itjust.works 12 points 22 hours ago (5 children)

I feel like this is most of shakespears work. Having read a lot of it, i was deeply unimpressed. I found it grueling to work through any of his pieces. And yet theyre universally beloved. Pretty sure its just because everyones teacher told them the book was good.

Its weird though, to kill a mockingbird was actually good, and yet it doesnt recieve nearly as much fanfare as something like hamlet or romeo & juliet. Feels like people just like shakespear because everyone else likes shakespear.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

Its weird though, to kill a mockingbird was actually good, and yet it doesnt recieve nearly as much fanfare as something like hamlet or romeo & juliet

You and I have different friends. One halloween we had a ham costume competition

[–] 5C5C5C@programming.dev 29 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Shakespeare's collective works span virtually every genre and introduce virtually every character archetype that is still used in modern literature and media. His works are brimming with word play, which often has triple or quadruple meaning; often dramatic, philosophical, and comedic at the same time. He was so prolific and such a good writer that there are conspiracy theories that he was actually several different playwrights sharing the same pen name.

Granted it's not as easy to appreciate his works today because of how the English language has drifted over the last 500 years, but what other work of literature from 500 years ago can you even point to as being popular today in its original form?

If you want to give Shakespeare a fair shake from the literary appreciation point of view, try reading an annotated copy of his works that provide context and translate the less familiar turns of phrase. It probably won't make you enjoy reading his works, but it should at least help you understand why he's so revered.

In terms of actually enjoying Shakespeare, well... He was a playwright, not a novelist! His works are meant to be seen on a stage. There are some really good performers out there whose emotivity can help bridge the language gap. Some troupes also tweak the dialog to make it more accessible to a modem audience, but I don't generally like that because they tend to lose the puns or at least diminish the layers or the poetry.

[–] nagaram@startrek.website 15 points 20 hours ago

The 2009 BBC Hamlet with David Tenant and Patrick Stewart is, without a doubt, the best possible version of hamlet on stage, on film, in its entirety.

I worked through and annotated hamlet and then watched that version. Just me, a dark room, popcorn, and a cozy spot.

It has made me obsess over Hamlet. Such a wonderful story!

[–] Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk 10 points 20 hours ago

Shakespeare's influence on pretty much all English writing, fiction, theatre, film, narrative form of any sort is so utterly massive it's almost impossible to fathom. His use of plot has informed how plots are constructed ever since. His use of language is still a massive influence on the way we speak today, and phrases he invented are so rooted in our cultural language we forget they were his. Going on a "wild-goose" chase. Having a "heart of gold". To "vanish into thin air". Even: "Knock knock, Who's there?" was his.

His works might be hard work for today's student since the language isn't the language of today. But pick pretty much any genre defining film from 50 years ago and it will seem a bit slow, and flat, and stilted compared to today's films. "It's been done better since!" His works are from 500 years ago!

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[–] Jojowski@sopuli.xyz 12 points 23 hours ago

A million flies can't be wrong.

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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 7 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

OG Avatar was basically “last of the space Mohicans”.

Also: Jesus tapdancing christ 🤦‍♂️

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

The amount of money spent making Avatar movies could probably have paid for universal K-College education for every American for decades with enough money left over to bribe the politicians into voting for something regular people want for a change!

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

And they could have still made the movies with the other billion

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[–] Ach@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago

Huge box office numbers =/= people calling a film good. People have absolutely been turning out in record numbers for the films, but have all been shit talking them endlessly for fifteen years.

I'm not arguing its sensible. Look at Call of Duty and the rhetoric around how bad they've become, but the same people whining always buy them.

[–] GalacticSushi@lemmy.blahaj.zone 31 points 23 hours ago

"Good movies"

"Oscar bait"

I think the Avatar films fall into this category

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 9 points 19 hours ago (6 children)

I think the Avatar films fall into this category

Nah, those movies are ass. They just have amazing special effects.

[–] SuperNovaStar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 18 hours ago

... and somehow they still get butts in seats and lots of people enjoy them.

People want to see the cutting-edge cgi. In that sense it absolutely is qualityslop.

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[–] pachrist@lemmy.world 8 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Nah, this is things like most Tarantino films, particularly Pulp Fiction, where it's a good movie, but every 17 year old you meet who loves it only loves it because everyone else loves it.

It’s the Kill Bill movies where he finally included enough of Uma’s feet.

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[–] Diddlydee@feddit.uk 17 points 23 hours ago (14 children)

Like everything Christopher Nolan makes.

[–] MidsizedSedan@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

Sure, Oppenheimer blew me away, but Tenet soured me so much, I'm not excited for The Odyssey

[–] Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

I... understand this. Hearing this made the whole idea make sense to me. Christopher Nolan's films are fantastic, everyone knows that... but when you get down to it, they're... alright.

[–] Nioxic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 23 hours ago (6 children)

Like Tenet

I mean, fun idea on paper.

But as a movie i was whelmed. Great actors and shitty script

[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 16 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (4 children)

I liked Tenet, but I also made a conscious decision not to think about the plot too hard and just accept it's vision of it's own universe.

I feel like Nolan movies aren't really about the plot so much as the conceptual notions and visual spectacle. They are almost impressionistic, the plot is just a framing device for everything else.

I kinda think Nolan knows this and gives you a hint by burying the dialog in the mix, your really not supposed to care about the story that much.

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