My friends and I have been yelling about this shit since at least the early Bush administration and before that we were too young to be politically involved.
It's really dangerous to lump people into groups like this all it does is cause division.
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The thing is that they started to kill bystander not the suspects cuz they resided and situation escalated
Cheap joke with no added value besides demoralizing and dividing the good side. This is not the way.
Reflecting on past mistakes isn't necessarily demoralizing, realizing that this isnt a new thing is good for future analysis. Hopefully everyone will come out too when the following George Floyd gets inevitably murdered
That's a bad example precisely because people did come out for George Floyd. What all these cases have in common is video evidence. A next one should not be acceptable, that's a defeating attitude right there.
George Floyd was famously a movement for Black Lives Matter, and there was no suggestion of general strike
There was also no absolute systemic instability at that point. the seeds of it were there, but there was still hope to change the system.
Wait, this has been going on since 2018‽
How did they cover it up back then?
That should have been harder and we should have seen this coming.
It's never been covered up.
This has always been very public knowledge, with which the US population was complacent.
Biden was not primary'd out despite having a role in this, proving that even progressives were fine with it.
Trump was reelected despite knowledge that he would make the situation worse, proving a lot of the US population loves this.
Liberals only started caring about the death camp police once they started shooting people in public, and are now feeling rightfully afraid since ICE is ok killing whites too now. I fear that the ongoing movement is going to be a defensive one, do a bit of defund ICE roleplay, stop when ICE says ok we're not shooting people on the streets anymore you win, and be fine with that conclusion. A complete dismantling and prosecution of ICE, including a liberation of all the migrants in the camps (especially the thousands "lost" by the system) is the only way forward otherwise the death toll will keep getting worse - 2026 is already the worst year on record in that regard and we're still in january.
Insert the MLK quote on white liberals being worse enemies to minorities than the KKK. Don't care much about this thread's feelings by now since they've demonstrated they only care how the situation affects their own feelings, instead of seeing that there is a bigger picture of a social justice fight for migrants being potentially derailed by liberals who are only looking for justice for themselves. I would hate to be the "told you so" person in a while after this whole thing fizzles out and nothing changes, praying time proves me wrong.
Biden was not primary’d out despite having a role in this
I honestly don't think of a President as more than a figurehead.
They might end up showing different things depending upon the party in power, but what goes on underneath, stays the same.
My main problem with this is, in 2018, customs were memed to be those that steal stuff on airport checkpoints and none of the above reached me.
Are they a separate governmental unit from ICE?
The abolish ICE movement is not new, it already existed throughout the first Trump presidency. It mostly stopped during the Biden presidency since he showed good will by reversing the most abusive of Trump's policies right away (proving he wasn't a mere figurehead and had the power to provide change), but the core rot of border patrol prison camps and treating migrants like cattle never stopped.
I honestly don’t think of a President as more than a figurehead.
Yet his primaries were the best opportunity to send a clear signal that progressives were fed up with his inwards dehumanizing policies and his outwards genocidal policies. Not many seemed to care as he had no real opposition. At some point people have to take responsibility for being complacent, and instead of feeling fragile about it or personally attacked by it (this whole thread), understanding that this is about learning from the past, and figuring out what to do in order for this to never happen again in the future.
People knew extremely well what ICE was and did, since after Trump won a common "joke" on social media was threats to call ICE on the latinos or arabs that voted for Trump. I remember seeing many of those, and being disgusted at how some progressives will only support minorities as long as they support them, and treated ICE as a joke despite the murders still going on.
I guess I just didn't check out enough media avenues to catch those back then.
Perhaps the same as what's going on now with a lot of other people who are unrelated enough, with the incidents.
yeah. i've been attending abolish ice movement meetings since 2009. this isn't a new movement, it's just become something that's become so visible it can't be unseen at all. it's like how the Black Lives Matter movement was founded in 2013 but people think of it as starting in 2020.
too many people view things as starting when they find out about them, and too many people are too hard on people for genuinely not knowing something was going on. we have a horrifying torment machine that's killing us all and if we lose control of what the truth is we might be fucked for an extraordinarily long time.
so do tell people these things are going on and have been going on for a long time. tell people where you learned about this and where they can find out more. don't be a scold. don't tolerate anyone who flat out denies the opportunity to educate themselves or be educated.
we don't have time to relitigate the 2020 primaries to figure out which of the progressive voices was the one progressives should have rallied around to avoid the neoliberal wing continuing to control the dnc, but we do have to learn our lessons of how the vote was split handing biden the election, despite the fact he was bascially everyone's 4th choice out of 16. and most of all, we need ranked choice ballots so people can truly cast votes that matter instead of letting the machinery of the party continue the illusion of choice.
To be fair, media underreporting the suffering of minorities is part of the equation.
It would be naive to think race isn't a factor here, but documentation of the crime is also a huge portion of it as well. I have seen the murder of Renee Good from at least 3 different angles, and Alex Pretti from 4, including the exact moment they shot him in the back. There are certainly a lot of Americans that would be more likely to justify this if they had been PoC, but there was also a lot of national outrage over Eric Garner and George Floyd because of how heavily documented those murders were.
I feel like this is super accurate. Of course its a factor but like all things race doesn't exist in a vacuum. There are other major contributing factors at play and I like this comment.
Part of the reason we are seeing such an active protest movement now is that ICE is doing its thing in Minneapolis, which was able to mobilize the existing activist network that was created as a result of the police murder of notable ~~white~~ black person George Floyd. This murder was national news and led to police reform in a bunch of states.
When notable ~~white~~ Salvadorian person Kilmar Abrego Garcia was illegal deported to a foreign torture prison, there was nation wide protest, with Senate Chris Van Hollen traveling to El Salvador. This nationwide protest movement eventually secured his release.
Oh yeah. I had Americunts fuming and frothing at the suggestion that they only started taking ICE committed atrocities seriously after a white American citizen was shot in the face.
"B-b-buT...."
NOT a single one admitted racism being the issue.
Anyway, it's good that they're doing something now at least.
That's the way it always seems to work. Watch how fast gun legislation gets put through when a politician's kid gets caught up in a school shooting.
Watch how fast the conversation changes when the protests aren't just "radical extremists from the left".
What's that line? "Soon, they will have been against this all along..."
Better late than never, we can hold ppl accountable for inaction AFTER we beat the system
If you don't address the inaction, you won't beat the system. "We can address all the systemic issues in our movement after our movement succeeds" has borne out in history approximately 0 times. More often either the movement fails entirely or it's coopted by its most conservative elements who turn it into something completely different.
If action is your goal, then when you see action, you support it. Address the inaction of those who are not acting, and support those who are. Bitching about the way it was is not helpful.
No part of what you said addresses my point, so I'll repeat myself: Resistance movements have to worry about being coopted from the inside almost as much as they do about being crushed from the outside. Introspection and self-awareness are crucial if this movement is going to survive. Internal conflict is often rightly cited as a danger to any movement, but it's also a survival mechanism that shouldn't be shut down out of hand.
You have a point. But currently people are doing the right thing. Should we stop? What do you suggest we do about it right now in this moment?
"Uh Oh people seem to be uniting in solidarity. Guess we better find a way to tear them apart!"
OP probably.
let op vent. Black and brown people have every fucking right to be pissed at the sudden shift from the daily lackadaisical attitude of white people while black and brown people have been lynched on streets for decades for fighting for your rights. When black and brown people win, white people win. When black and brown people lose, white people keep on goin. White people are suddenly inconvenienced at the ideo that they no longer have a second amendment. Welcome to the daily lives of black and brown people you have been unaware of until now since white people are finally rejecting their capital W Whiteness.
Previous years white people put up a black avatar on instagram for george floyd and brianna taylor. Now theyre willing to die when its white people.
Major shift in attitude from the whites and yes its about damn time white people woke up to the violence. Keep putting your bodies in the front though and do some good
Gourmet comment.
It's good to feel heard in the sea of fragile whiteness on display in this comment section.
Have a beautiful day.
propagandist.
Stop trying to divide us when we are trying to unite. The white people that are getting killed are the ones trying to help and warn their neighbors. Keep making them feel guilty and they may just give up.
This. People were already protesting ICE long before Renée Good got killed. The racists, white supremacists, and nazis are still not protesting today. They don't care if a murdered protestor is white. A Nazi is going to view any white protesters as race traitors. What's happening right now is a dramatic shift in the scope of what ICE is doing. Rather than simply targeting immigrants, it's being deployed against protestors and in crowd control efforts. The extent of people they're targeting and how they're targeting them is dramatically expanding as well.
In 2025, at least 32 people died in custody after being detained by ICE. This has caused massive protests nationwide.
But in 2025, there were only 2 people known to have been shot and killed by ICE:
Silverio Villegas González - September 12 - undocumented immigrant shot and killed by ICE in his car after dropping his kids off at school in Chicago. Video circulated online of his window getting broken out and him getting dragged out of the car after being shot.
Keith Porter - December 31 - African American father shot and killed in Los Angeles while allegedly setting off fireworks. There are no videos of what happened.
The first people shot and killed by ICE in 2026 include:
Renée Good - January 7 - woman shot and killed in her vehicle in Minneapolis. Videos of the incident circulated online. She was not actively protesting.
Alex Pretti - January 24 - protestor murdered execution style in Minneapolis for attempting to help a woman get safely to a sidewalk.
That's it. This image includes completely incorrect information. Jaime Alanís Garcia died from breaking his neck after allegedly falling 30 feet from a building while a cannabis farm was being raided by ICE in Ventura County, California. ICE and CBP claims they were not targeting him. There's no video of the incident.
Stuff is dramatically escalating, and it's presumably about to get much much worse.
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I get it, but if this is the line for somebody, then that person is finally angry at the right people for the right reasons. You can tell them off and bicker amongst yourselves after its over. Just be glad theyre finally on the right side for now.
The best 'convert' is the one that got there on their own. They're already primed to believe us when we warn next time.
We do harm by mocking the leopards-ate-my-face crowd when they finally catch on. Even if it is cathartic.
There's room to tell them "Oh that thing we warned you about actually happened? maybe we weren't crazy", but we should then welcome them in and guide them instead of a rude "I told ya so" and no empathy.
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Indistinguishable from Russian propaganda to agitate for class division and disrupt solidarity. Fuck outta here with this self-righteous, tone-deaf slopaganda.
"no go back to fighting each other"
Fuck out of here you propagandist bitch
This is true, but detracts from the cause at the moment
Yep.
People should’ve already been angry. But better late than never.
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How many of those were captured on video? From multiple angles?
We don't have to pretend America doesn't have a racism problem to know that rhetoric like this is not well intentioned.
Minneapolis: Check.
On video: Check.
Massive uproar: Check.
White victim: Nope.
George Floyd's death shows that what matters is that it happened in front of witnesses who were recording on video, not the colour of the victims' skin.
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