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Paper is the new privacy measure. (infosec.pub)

submitted 2 days ago by Zephorah@discuss.online to c/privacy@lemmy.world

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[–] Janx@piefed.social 54 points 1 day ago

This is so sad. But the upside is there are apparently enough people that don't want others kidnapped they are delivering groceries and are willing to eat paper if (illegally) stopped by ICE. Y'all should be celebrated forever...

[–] mumblerfish@lemmy.world 111 points 2 days ago (12 children)

So important to document all these tactics and counter-tactics. It will also come to parts of Europe soon. Sweden has under the current government implemented prisons for children and forced government employees to report suspected undocumented children and families. And the far-right has not even officially been included in the government yet. We probably have to prepare here too.

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[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 81 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I fucking loathe conservatives. They are proud Nazis but scoff at the use of the term. But it's the only term that really describes them. Fucking Nazis.

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[–] alpenloui@feddit.org 28 points 1 day ago

Germany 1930s. We all know the playbook.

[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 47 points 1 day ago (3 children)

There are credible reports from ICE observers in cars being lead to their own houses. To be more clear, ICE is cars being observed as is one's constitutionally protected right, are driving to the homes of the cars observing them. This is intended to let the observers know that ICE knows who they are.

It does seem like a bad idea to let the general public determine a location for ICE to drive to in a way that will highlight which car is full of ICE agents, but that is just me.

[–] doctordevice@lemmy.ca 65 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Now I'm fairly sleep deprived at the moment so it could just be me, but I can't parse your first paragraph at all, especially the second sentence.

[–] axexrx@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

A couple key typos i think

I think hes saying ice notices a civilain tailing them, pulls their info, then drives to the tail's adress, with the civilian observer still following, letting them know that the agents know who they are and can get to them any time, as a threat.

Paragraph 2 is pointing out this is a bad strategy for ice, as it allows opposition to lead ice into an ambush/ further identify cars:

Drive around and start tailing suspect cars- when they start going towards your home, mark them as confirmed undercover ICE vehicles,

OR have people waiting at the vehicles' registered address to ambush them- could be pretty effective once people start shifting to violent resistance mode- either steal a car from someone out of town and use their car and property to set the trap, or your own old home if youre already marked and had to go underground.

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[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 18 points 1 day ago

I will break it down differently.

ICE agents are in cars, and the cars are traveling.
First Amendment Observers are following the cars with ICE agents.
The ICE agents are looking up the owner of the car that is following them.
The cars with ICE agents are driving to the homes of the observers, and pausing outside.
ICE agents are attempting to intimidate the observers by demonstrating that they know where the observers live.

[–] Rooster326@programming.dev 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Well normally when you have a car full of dangerous felons following you then the best place to drive to was the police station but it's 2026 and well, here we are..

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