This is a perfect example of why privacy and security in smartphones is so incredibly important. Delivering food to your neighbors is not illegal and you shouldn't be followed because you put a Mexican person's address into Google Maps or your notes. Absolute insanity.
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Maybe I'm too stupid to understand this but how exactly would ICE know which white person to follow? Even if 1% (ridiculously high) of white people were doing this, they would still have to filter them out of the other 99% of white people.
Why would you need to use GPS to deliver food to a house that your friend lives in? How would a piece of paper help you find your "friend's house" that you don't know without the GPS? Why does your friend not just use a grocery delivery service?
To me this story sounds completely far fetched.
I like your user name for this comment. It’s a fair assessment though. The problem is we would not have had street executions on our bingo cards for the last 6 mos either. Street executions without the Floyd reactivity even. Or, at least, the utter lack of reporting on it.
Per MN posts on Substack, ICE is camping the street where they killed the nurse. My guess, to prevent a show of support with a memento memorial pileup of items and such.
For this, it’s within the realm of possibility, and given how little is being reported on some benefit of the doubt will be extended. Shit is falling off the rails over here. There’s no security. No real governance. Just a lot of poor people with no health insurance moving on inertia and denial while a small amount of others try to push back from the streets. Meanwhile, 1/3 of us cheer for or make excuses for it.
Okay but still - imagine you are an ICE agent. Why would you waste your time and effort having to handle and filter the hundreds of thousands of white people on the incredibly low chance of grabbing someone, when you can just go where you know there will be undocumented people? There is no shortage of illegal farm hands, maids, restaurant workers, etc., you would be able to go directly where you expect them far more easily than a 0.01% chance of finding someone on a grocery run to a mexican family.
How much of this is actually about immigration?
That is the question that needs parsing out first. Why care about kids in frog suits sitting in a street, in relatively small numbers, outside of an ICE admin center in Portland? Why Minneapolis? Why not Springfield Ohio where they’re supposedly “eating the cats and dogs?” Let’s check out some 2020 census data.
Dearborn Michigan (Detroit suburb) has a 54% population of middle eastern and North African ancestry. Detroit itself is 9.5% white. Or, a 90.5% population potential of harassing non white people and/or non white immigrants. Or of maybe finding actual illegals based on community movement factors.
Milwaukee WI is 37.8% black, 20.1% Latino, and 5.2% Asian. Or, a 63% population potential of harassing non white people and/or non white immigrants. Philadelphia is 38.3% black, 14.9% Latino, and 8.3% Asian. Or, a 61.5% population potential of harassing non white people and/or non white immigrants. Or, again, of rooting out potential illegals based on community movement factors.
Meanwhile, Minneapolis is 18.9% black, 10% Latino, 5.8% Asian. Or, a 34.7% population potential of harassing non white people and/or non white immigrants.
But, what’s the difference? Voting and politics. Minnesota is bluer than blue. Minnesota even stayed blue as a lone holdout during the Reagan years. Meanwhile, WI, MI, OH, and PA are all swing states. They’re not 100% done with the voting quite yet. Good odds that’s why they’re not in Detroit or some such instead.
If this was about immigration or rooting out illegals they would have never been concentrating in Minneapolis to begin with. Never mind the part regarding Walz daring to run agains Cluster B Personality personified: Trump. Of note, Cluster B requires a nemesis to work against, it’s part of the personality disorder sets.
You’re attempting to argue logical immigration enforcement where none exists.
While dragging off nonwhite people is a piece of the action that is indeed taking place, this is a multifaceted, intentional endeavor that is never not highly political regarding “enemies” of the present administration.
ETA: also consider the hires. If they were good players with solid backgrounds their faces wouldn’t be hidden. You are also assuming the agents themselves are personally functioning on logical immigration enforcement.
Take a deep dive into conservative social media. It’s a lot of meme sharing about how “we are done with you”, “we are not the same”, “talk is over”, “purging the non American leftists”, and such. Imbue that mentality into the present ICE hires and the behaviors make more sense.
Why does your friend not just use a grocery delivery service?
I think it's pretty easy to draw connections among "unable to leave house in fear," "unable to work," and "unable to afford food/grocery delivery services."
Also, digital fingerprinting would easily identify individuals who would not deliver groceries to their immigrant neighbors. Pick out the more vocal members of the remaining people, find which ones are active in community social media groups, and you have a list of people that is much smaller than just "white people."
Ok but now it's not that they're being followed from the grocery store, it is hypothetical digital profiling that is the problem. Even this is more resource intensive than the direct approach, i.e.: they would have an easier time snatching "random" illegal immigrants by driving up to construction sites and harassing general labourers, or coming in the back door of a restaurant.
If they are able to commit resources to deep surveillance of the entire white population on the off chance of catching someone delivering food to an illegal immigrant, then why would they not commit a drone to follow the individual the whole way to their destination? Again, this surveilled individual apparently knows where they are going "by paper", without GPS, not by memorisation of an address. Why? The story is simply nonsense.
This is genuinely unsettling. Whatever people’s views are, no one should feel afraid just trying to help a neighbor or go about daily life. Empathy and basic humanity shouldn’t be controversial.
LIterally 1939
Walking some home with their consent (or consent of their guardian) is not a crime.
Following someone home is stalking.
When it's related to groceries it's actually called a steak-out.
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I keep a small notepad and pen to write things down if I see something interesting or if I need to note something. Much more private than taking a photo or writing it on my phone 's notepad software.
Paper is the new privacy measure
Always has been.
Protip: for anyone seeking to use typewriters to further circumvent surveillance, please know that the ribbon is a complete log of every keystroke. Also, the pressure your pen makes on paper can be recovered from soft-ish surfaces and sheets underneath it. Act accordingly.
We have messaging apps that are secure and can timed autodelete by text “for everyone”.
And yet people keep on using Facebook Messenger.
And your printer puts microscopic marks that can be traced back to the specific one.
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Pen and paper.
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Partially related: Grocery store apps "tailoring" the price of groceries to the individual? Oh fuck you motherfuckers, cash for me from now on.
"We're sorry, this location is no longer accepting cash."
in some states/cities that's illegal.
- Arizona
- Illinois
- Kentucky
- Montana
- Maine
- Massachusetts
- Missouri
- New York
- North Carolina
- South Carolina
- Ohio
- Oklahoma
- Rhode Island
- Tennessee
- Philadelphia
- New York City
- San Francisco
Time to bring back the proud American tradition of shooting Nazis.
I would prefer the bat method. They should feel it.
Glad you included a picture. Based on text, I thought you were suggesting we get Batman.
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This comment of the lady taking the picture really reminds me of the early Nazi era regime where people were hunting for undocumented Jews. This makes me incredibly sad to see history is repeating itself yet again.
There are still WWII veterans alive that fought the Nazis in Germany just to watch it repeat itself in their own fucking country.
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civil war in 3... 2... 1...
We’re already there.
It's not a civil war until the citizens start shooting back, until then it's just oppression.
Gestapo/Stasi vibes all over.
During Gestapo and Stasi times most informants did their best to remain anonymous because no one likes snitches. Openly following someone and bragging about it is sociopathic even by nazi and Stalinist standards.
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Nah, AmeriKKKa vibes.
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Little tip, put the duress pin as your birth date. Because that's the first thing that a law enforcement officer might try. Then the phone deletes itself and they can't claim that you did it because they were the ones to enter it, unprompted.
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How are we supposed to live side by side with these people?
Unless those on the attacking side (MAGA) decide they don't want to murder more of us, I'm not sure we can. The first civil war was incredibly bloody and tensions between the sides never settled down fully. We are in this situation partly because there is no way to have a compromise with people that believe some of our society's members aren't human. The white supremacist view of slave owners and supporters of slavery never went away, it needs to be cut out from the root.
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