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Kyle Hill has gone full doomer after reading too much Big Yud and the Yud & Soares book. His latest video is titled "Artificial Superintelligence Must Be Illegal." Previously, on Awful, he was cozying up to effective altruists and longtermists. He used to have a robotic companion character who would banter with him, but it seems like he's no longer in that sort of jocular mood; he doesn't trust his waifu anymore.
kinda depressing seeing people fall for Yud’s shtick without realising about all the other bullshit (though in fairness the average person is not aware of the many years of rationalism lore). thankfully people in the comment section are more skeptical but still cautious, which I think is a fair reaction to all this
Wasn't he on YouTube trying to convince people that Nuclear Energy is Fine Actually? Figures.
Is Pee Stored in the Balls? Vibe Coding Science with OpenAI's Prism
https://bsky.app/profile/carlbergstrom.com/post/3mdgtf2e6vc2c
Chris Lintott (@chrislintott.bsky.social):
We’re getting so many journal submissions from people who think ‘it kinda works’ is the standard to aim for.
Research Notes of the AAS in particular, which was set up to handle short, moderated contributions especially from students, is getting swamped. Often the authors clearly haven’t read what they’ve submitting, (Descriptions of figures that don’t exist or don’t show what they purport to)
I’m also getting wild swings in topic. A rejection of one paper will instantly generate a submission of another, usually on something quite different.
Many of these submissions are dense with equations and pseudo-technological language which makes it hard to give rapid, useful feedback. And when I do give feedback, often I get back whatever their LLM says.
Including the very LLM responses like ‘Oh yes, I see that is wrong, I’ve removed it. Here’s something else’
Research Notes is free to publish in and I think provides a very valuable service to the community. But I think we’re a month or two from being completely swamped.
people who think ‘it kinda works’ is the standard to aim for
I swear that this is a form of AI psychosis or something because the attitude is suddenly ubiquitous among the AI obsessed.
One of the great tragedies of AI and science is that the proliferation of garbage papers and journals is creating pressure to return to more closed systems based on interpersonal connections and established prestige hierarchies that had only recently been opened up somewhat to greater diversity.
Ow! My Balls
enjoy this glorious piece of LW lingo
Aumann's agreement is pragmatically wrong. For bounded levels of compute you can't necessarily converge on the meta level of evidence convergence procedures.
no I don't know what it means, and I don't want it to be explained to me. Just let me bask in its inscrutibility.
The sad thing is I have some idea of what it's trying to say. One of the many weird habits of the Rationalists is that they fixate on a few obscure mathematical theorems and then come up with their own ideas of what these theorems really mean. Their interpretations may be only loosely inspired by the actual statements of the theorems, but it does feel real good when your ideas feel as solid as math.
One of these theorems is Aumann's agreement theorem. I don't know what the actual theorem says, but the LW interpretation is that any two "rational" people must eventually agree on every issue after enough discussion, whatever rational means. So if you disagree with any LW principles, you just haven't read enough 20k word blog posts. Unfortunately, most people with "bounded levels of compute" ain't got the time, so they can't necessarily converge on the meta level of, never mind, screw this, I'm not explaining this shit. I don't want to figure this out anymore.
@gerikson @lagrangeinterpolator
> but it does feel real good when your ideas feel as solid as math
Misread this as "meth", perfect, no further questions
The Wikipedia article is cursed
Honestly even the original paper is a bit silly, are all game theory mathematics papers this needlessly farfetched?
this sounds exactly like the sentence right before "they have played us for absolute fools!" in that meme.
oh man, it's Aumann's
retains the same informational content after running through rot13
Are you trying to say that you are not regularly thinking about the meta level of evidence convergence procedures?
Tbh, this is pretty convincing, I agree a lot more with parts of the LW space now. (Just look at the title, the content isn't that interesting).
I gave the new ChatGPT Health access to 29 million steps and 6 million heartbeat measurements ["a decade of my Apple Watch data"]. It drew questionable conclusions that changed each time I asked.
WaPo. Paywalled but I like how everything I need to know is already in the blurb above.
Archive link, but you can extrapolate the whole article from the blurb. Mostly. It's actually slightly worse than the blurb suggests.
I think I installed the cursed Windows 11 update on my work machine, because after taking several tries to boot, my second monitor stopped working (detected, but showing a black screen).
Tried some different configurations, and could make only 0-1 screens work.
Uninstalled the update and everything worked correctly again.
Thanks for nothing Microslop.
I also had a computer not boot. Tried installing windows 11 but the iso does not include network card drivers and requires a second drive that has them. I just happened to have another but it malfunctioned. Was assured IT would fix it but it still doesn't boot. :(
A few people in LessWrong and Effectlve Altruism seem to want Yud to stick in the background while they get on with organizing his teachings into doctrine, dumping the awkward ones down the memory hole, and organizing a movement that can last when he goes to the Great Anime Convention in the Sky. In 2022 someone on the EA forum posted On Deference and Yudkowsky's AI Risk Estimates (ie. "Yud has been bad at predictions in the past so we should be skeptical of his predictions today")
that post got way funnier with Eliezer’s recent twitter post about “EAs developing more complex opinions on AI other than itll kill everyone is a net negative and cancelled out all the good they ever did”
Quick, someone nail your 95-page blog post to the front door of lighthaven or whatever they call it.
A religion is just a cult that survived its founder -- someone, at some point.
The AI craze might end up killing graphics card makers:
Zotac SK's message: "(this) current situation threatens the very existence of (add-in-board partners) AIBs and distributors."
The current situation is so serious that it is worrisome for the future existence of graphics card manufacturers and distributors. They announced that memory supply will not be sufficient and that GPU supply will also be reduced.
Curiously, Zotac Korea has included lowly GeForce RTX 5060 SKUs in its short list of upcoming "staggering" price increases.
I wonder if the AI companies realize how many people will be really pissed off at them when so many tech-related things become expensive or even unavailable, and everyone will know that it's only because of useless AI data centers?
well with the recent Microsoft CEO statement on "we have to find a use for this stuff or it won't be socially acceptable to waste so much electricity on it" they have some level of awareness, but only a very surface level awareness
I am confident that Altman in particular has a poor-to-nonexistent grasp of second-order effects.
I mean you don't have to grasp, know of, or care about the consequences when none of the consequences will touch you, and after the bubble pops and the company bankrupts catastrophically, you will remain comfortably a billionaire with several more billions in your aire than the ones you had when you started the bubble in the first place. Consequences are for the working class, capitalists fall upwards.
Cloudflare just announced in a blog post that they built:
a serverless, post-quantum Matrix homeserver.
it's a vibe-coded pile of slop where most of the functions are placeholders like // TODO: check authorization.
Full thread: https://tech.lgbt/@JadedBlueEyes/115967791152135761
And of all possible things to implement, they chose Matrix. lol and lmao.
The interesting thing in this case for me is how did anyone think it was a good idea to draw attention to their placeholder code with a blog post. Like how did they went all the way to vibe a full post without even cursorily glancing at the slop commits.
I'm convinced by now that at least mild forms of "AI psychosis" affect all chatbots users; after a period of time interacting with what Angela Collier called "Dr. Flattery the Always Wrong Robot", people will hallucinate fully working projects without even trying to test whether it compiles.
just to note that reportedly the palantir employees are for whatever reason going through a massive “hans, are we the baddies” moment, almost a whole year into the second trump administration.
as i wrote elsewhere, those people need to be subjected to actual social consequences of choosing to work with and for the u.s. concentration camp administration office.
this happens like clockwork

It's so blindingly obvious that it's become obscure again so it bears pointing out, someone really went ahead and named a tech company after a fantasy torment nexus and people thought it wouldn't be sketch.
On a semi-adjacent note I came across an attorney who helped to establish and run the Department of Homeland Security (under Bush AND Trump 1)
He also wants you to know he’s Jewish (so am I, and I know our history enough that Homeland Security always had ‘Blood and Soil’ connotations you fucking shande)
I have family working there, who told me during the holidays, “Current leadership makes me uncomfortable, but money is good”
Every impression I had of them completely shattered, cannot fathom that level out sell out exists in people I thought I knew.
As a bonus, their former partner was a former employee who became a whistleblower and has now gone full howard hughes
anyone who can get a job at palantir can get an equivalent paying job at a company that's at least measurably less evil. what a lazy copout
On one hand as a poor grad student in the past, I could imagine working for a truly repugnant corp. but like if you’ve already made millions from your stock options, wtf are you doing. Idk, i really thought they’d have some shame over it, but they said shit like “our customers really like our deliverables” and i just fucking left with my wife
I have mixed feelings about this one: The Enclosure feedback loop (or how LLMs sabotage existing programming practices by privatizing a public good).
The author is right that stack overflow has basically shrivelled up and died, and that llm vendors are trying to replace it with private sources of data they'll never freely share with the rest of us, but I don’t think that chatbot dev sessions are in any way “high quality data”. The number of occasions when a chatbot-user actually introduces genuinely useful and novel information will be low, and the ability of chatbot companies to even detect that circumstance will be lower still. It isn’t enclosing valuable commons, it is squirting sealant around all the doors so the automated fart-huffing system and its audience can’t get any fresh air.
I don’t think that chatbot dev sessions are in any way “high quality data”.
Yeah, Gas Town is being belabored to death, but it must be reiterated that I doubt the long-term value proposition of "Kubernetes fan fiction"
I also didn't find the argument very persuasive.
The LLM companies aren't paying anythnig for content. Why should they stop scraping now?
Oh, they won’t. It’s just that they’ve already killed the golden goose, and no-one is breeding new ones, and they need an awful lot of gold still.
Daniel Stenberg has written the cURL bug bounty's obituary, and discussed his plans for dealing with the slop-nami going forward.