Man this is so overblown. If it was moved to the 28th, all these whiners wouldn't even remember in a year or two. As long as I get a holiday in late January, I don't care about the date. These people always say the sky will fall if we change anything (gay marriage, banning smoking in bars, etc) then we do it and nothing bad happens.
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I reckon you're right, I didn't hear any complaining this year about the Triple J Top 100 being on a different date.
I don't hear anyone talk about the hottest 100 at all these days.
I work most public holidays and was a bit of a ritual to listen to it while we worked. When they moved it I just no longer listened to it. Now I don't think I know anyone that listens to it.
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I have an argument that gets those racist idiots to agree to moving the day.
Wouldn't it be nicer to have a public holiday when the weather's nicer instead of it being 40 odd degrees? We should move it to a part of the year where it's still good to go out but it's not boiling hot. Perfect getting blind drunk and passing out on the grass in the middle of the day weather.
Yes please. We go from ANZAC day in April to fucking December 25th before we get another public holiday in most of Australia.
I dread that 'public holiday drought' every year.
Move it to early September or something. Skips the worst of winter and breaks up the work year better.
There's the honorary kings bday in June/July (lazy and dont remember which). Then there's the one in October, Melbourne cup I think idk? So there's two in between. I think 3 would be nice. Thats one every couple of months. Others to many early on in the year anyway. It fucks up January to have one again that soon, having been working somewhere that doesn't close over Christmas + new years.
Come to sunny Melbourne and get grand final day and Melbourne cup day
I think what we need to do is to start our own Australia day celebration on an agreed date. We have to spend the currently official day either doing nothing or raising awareness and yet the racists(or uninformed if you're young/new to the country) get to enjoy it celebrating.
I would love a day where we could all celebrate this beautiful country. We need to start the change we want to see in this world and raising awareness has been an excellent step in this journey.
Do you mean that instead of having Australia day be negative on 26th, start the celebration on another day first. Let the mood shift there naturally, rather than out of negativity on the day that's already in place, albeit inappropriately.
That's actually a pretty fucking good idea. Why wait for the government to tell us what to do, they can follow our lead.
Link to the QR code btw: https://www.clothingthegaps.com.au/pages/not-a-date-to-celebrate
Can you please add this to the post for visibility @Deceptichum@quokk.au?
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I am not Australian and I don't know the entire history or context, but one thing I can say is that not only can people change but nations can change, too. It's possible to celebrate what a nation has become without celebrating what they've done.
And it's also possible to change the date to one that does not mark a genocide.
- The 26th is the date the First Fleet landed in Sydney.
- Australia became a country on January 1st.
- The 26th became the official date for 'Australia Day' only in 1994.
Spin a wheel and pick a date. It doesn't matter when it is, just as long as it's not yet another 'fuck you' to the first nations.
Such a petty and easy to fix thing, but all the skungebags with flags sticking out of their utes seem to think this has some sort of cultural heritage to them. At least the US southerners have a generational gap between them and the loser flag.
I know im in the minority but I like the 3rd of march.
I'm with you. 3rd March is a good pick for both what it represents (throwing off the shackles of the British) and for the time of year (early Autumn is basically still summer), and I strongly support the idea of changing it to that date.
I think I would prefer 3rd September or 9th October, the date the Statute of Westminster was enacted (depending on whether you go by the date it actually passed in 1942, or the date it was retroactively applied to in 1939). They both come at a time of year where there's a relative lack of public holidays. The 5 month period from late December to early May already have Christmas, Boxing Day, New Year's, Good Friday, Easter Monday, ANZAC Day, and Labour Day. That's 7. The entire rest of the year has just 2!
(Using Queensland dates here, but the trend is similar elsewhere, with a lot of state or local public holidays also being in that span. And, obviously, I'm discounting Australia Day from the 5-month period for the sake of the hypothetical. Otherwise it would be 8.)
Ideal would be an early November/late October holiday, to get that warm weather while still being reasonably removed from the Christmas–Labour Day period. The early October of the date the Statute of Westminster Adoption Act received royal assent is a little earlier than ideal, but has the added bonus of some synergy with ACT, NSW, and SA's Labour Day, as well as Qld's King's Birthday, giving two long weekends in a row: sometimes (including this year) a 3-day week, usually two 4-day weeks in a row.
But any of these dates would make great alternatives and have my strong support.
I guess making 1/1 Australia day would conflict with New Year's Day somewhat... Any other significant days in Australia's history that don't mark genocide?
3rd March 1986 is the date the Australia Acts were enacted, which is actually what removed the last shackles of UK dominion over Australia, including the UK's ability to pass legislation that would have effect in Australia or for Australians to appeal to the UK privy council. Up until this point, Australia was officially still a dominion of the British Empire.
The Statute of Westminster was officially adopted on 9th October 1942, though it was backdated to 3rd September 1939. It removed most of the ability of the UK to legislate with effect in Australia (still enabling them to legislate over Australia with Australia's "express request and consent"), removed the ability of the monarch to refuse to allow the Governor-General to give royal assent, and gave Australia the ability to control the laws of royal succession independently of the UK, which is why prior to William having his first kid, Australia (and other countries such as NZ, in addition to the UK itself) had to enact legal changes to the laws of succession in order to allow for succession to be simple primogeniture, rather than male-preference primogeniture.
So that's 3 good dates there: 3 March, 3 September, and 9 October.
There's also 9 July, which is the date the Australia Constitution Act 1900 was enacted by the UK Parliament, allowing for federation to occur on 1 January the following year. So a potential 4th date, but kinda a lame one IMO.
It’s possible to celebrate what a nation has become without celebrating what they’ve done.
A nation's actions are a direct result of what the nation is. And many of the shameful actions of Australia are ongoing.
I love this land, I love many, many people here, and I love many of the things we've created together. But I have no desire to celebrate this nation as it stands. I feel no more kinship with someone on the other side of the country to someone on the other side of the world - we are all fellow humans. I treat visitors and immigrants with the same respect I give local citizens. For the many positive parts of Australian culture, I spot as many negatives.
But even all that aside, if you want to celebrate the positive parts and ignore the negative... it's embarrassing to plaster the United Kingdom flag everywhere. Green and gold > red, white and blue.
The discussion is mostly about the date, some suggest 3 December, 1 January, 3 March or 9 July.
I am not Australian and I don’t know the entire history or context
And yet you decided to weigh in anyway. Amazing.