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[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 6 points 2 days ago

So now he will realize he doesn't know shit and shut up, right?

Right?

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago

Worst “hair”/toupee/failed transplant/hairspray/hair gel mess ever. JFC.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm reminded of that smarmy dickhead that wrote "Liberal Fascism" that was about mansplaining how it was really the liberals that were the fascists.

Every conservative spent a lot of time telling me I simply must read this book.

Then there was Tucker, who said he'd have to blame liberals if he were to later support fascism because, really, what choice did he have? People kept calling him a fascist, the poor dear! And insisting that people Tucker doesn't value have rights!

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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

The Atlantic is the worst

[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Remember when we were the good guys?

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[–] AshMan85@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

And because you didnt have the spine to say when it could have made a difference, we are here.

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I think this 'attack them for being dumb' angle is wrong and damaging.

Is your ego being salved by metaphorically spitting on someone and telling them that you were smarter than them and they should have listened to you sooner? Is that more important than having allies to defeat Fascism?

Every time I see someone on the right who speaks up about changing their views, they're buried under down votes and toxic comments.

Nobody benefits from us allowing these toxic people to alienate people who are coming over to our side.

Yes, you were right first, congrats we'll give you a big gold star right after the trials. Until then, stop shooting allies because you want to feel superior.

[–] DougHolland@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

In a position commanding a wide public audience, Jonathan Rauch has spent years speaking against us and mocking us. Today, he's had an epiphany and figured out he's been well-paid to be wrong. That's cool. "Welcome to the fight. This time I know our side will win," and all that.

I'm not going to waste any effort kicking him today, but I'm also not shocked, not scolding anyone who doesn't welcome Jonathan Rauch with a bouquet of flowers and wet kisses. Anyway, in five days or five minutes he'll decide we're wrong again. Shrug.

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, you're right there will be a lot of fair weather supporters who are only switching sides because the wind blew our way. Nor do I think we should coddle these people.

My point is that: if you don't have something constructive to say then at least be silent. There is ZERO advantage (outside of soothing their ego) for a person who supports this cause to actively attack people who are coming around to see how bad this situation has become.

The net result of this kind of tactic is to create division among allies. This kind of behavior isn't something that benefits us and should be actively discouraged.

I'm not saying 'be nice or they'll go back to fascism' as you can already see the troll comments (reading from that exact same encyclopedia of toxic rhetoric). I'm saying that this kind of behavior cuts off these new anti-fascists from being able to support the movement, dividing the enemies of fascism.

As I said, go try to engage some of these people in conversation to change their mind. Very often you'll find they have zero interest in having a good-faith discussion, and will constantly be deploying all manner of fallacy as a smoke screen. These people are not allies, they are agitators and, even if they are real American Human People then they are ideologically aligned with the agitators.

[–] DougHolland@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ha — how did you get to know my family so well? I'm not interested in conversation with people who aren't interested in conversation, so I no longer engage — unless they say something stupid or fascist in my presence.

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Ha — how did you get to know my family so well? I’m not interested in conversation with people who aren’t interested in conversation, so I no longer engage — unless they say something stupid or fascist in my presence.

I live in a rural area of a red state so I have to deal with MAGA people, family and clients, constantly.

[–] treesapx@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think it's telling that you're getting down votes without response. Your question is simple: What do we have to gain by turning away potential allies other than massaging our egos?

It's a good question.

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[–] pigup@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago
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