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[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 174 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The evidence is the 10 videos all showing the same thing. ICE is guilty of murder. The videos are all over the Internet, what could they destroy? Other than the name of the murderer there isn't anymore needed to convict.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 92 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (25 children)

Bullet casings, for one. More than one person shot him.

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The firearm they claim to have taken off him. The photo they posted is old and literally off Google Images.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

The CNN video shows them disarming him and it not being in the beating area when the murder happens

https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/25/us/video/minneapolis-ice-shooting-alex-pretti-visual-analysis-digvid

That picture might not be that gun, but there is proof they should have a gun in their possession.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Felony murder rule. If you take part in a felony and someone dies as an outcome, you can be charged with murder.

It's how getaway drivers for gas station robberies get convicted of murder when things go south and their buddy shoots the clerk.

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[–] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 weeks ago

Do you know the identity of the shooter? Cause they're not just going to tell you.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 80 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Why would they want to destroy evidence?

I thought this was "the most transparent administration in history"?

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 35 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Transparent to them means they can be openly racist, sexist, and general xenophobic cunts.

What you are looking for is honest. They are not honest

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I think they like to gaslight about the "transparent" thing, because according to them, Biden was not transparent because he wasn't doing a presser every five minutes. Donvict doesn't talk to the press to provide info, he does it because he is a narcissist.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

That makes a lot of sense. A lot of what they do is for perceived injustice against them.

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[–] monkeyslikebananas2@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago

Transparently corrupt.

[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 weeks ago

Even if they didn't destroy evidence what is going to happen? Congress seems fine with the current set of events.

[–] smeg 56 points 2 weeks ago

Evidence isn't necessary when the law doesn't matter

[–] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 51 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The fact that this had to be said is ridiculous. America is so fucked.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

The fact that it had to be said, says that it's already been destroyed.

It's all going to get worse before it gets better. This is the cycle of history, we're in the pit of the trough.

[–] Strakh@lemmy.world 44 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Wait... You have to have a court tell the federal government to not destroy/alter/plant evidence?

How.. how is that a thing? Should'nt that just happen normally?

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Yes.

But there are no consequences so they will ignore the court order and destroy any and all evidence they can, just as they did for Renee Good’s killer, the murderer Jonathan Ross.

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[–] Bakkoda@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Law has never really accounted for bad faith actors from the prosecution side. They most likely won't enforce it either. We're very quickly finding out just how much laws won't help us.

[–] Bwaz@lemmy.world 40 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Cute that he thinks they'll obey the order.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 3 points 2 weeks ago

We don't know that he does.

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 36 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

Is this not covered by standing law? When it is ever legally allowed to alter or destroy evidence?

Is the distinction more that typically this would be a slap on the wrist for law enforcement, but the TRO makes it explicit that there would be consequences?

[–] markovs_gun@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

That is the job of judges- to interpret existing law. The news here is that a judge agreed that it is illegal and told them not to do it.

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[–] Lasherz12@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's more that the judge wants the punishment to be greater than the typical punishment for tampering with evidence. When the victim is dead the law tends to give undue credence to the statements of the survivor as there is only 2nd hand testimony provided for the prosecution. We should interpret it as a judge making a stand and vowing harsh penalties and the supreme court/appeals should interpret it as the judge making it much harder to overturn the eventual decision.

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[–] JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Why would this have to be specified? Obviously the law doesn't matter.

[–] digitalFatteh@lemmy.ca 22 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I would like to think that Judges, especially those leaning Republican, are starting to think that some people might start thinking they’re complicit. So maybe they want to keep heads on shoulders.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Or we set up the judiciary to be independent, despite who appointed them, and sometimes that works.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

It’s even possible that judge is doing what he thinks is right

[–] digitalFatteh@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Probably waiting on orders and a stipend before they mysteriously change there mind and throw their hands on the air as there was nothing they could do.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago

I mean. That's just ignorant at this point...

Even the judges trump was placing for the federalist society a decade ago are turning on trump, and have been this whole term.

It's not enough, we need more out of court systems. But this is something, and it is real.

Like, shits fucking serious. We need to be honest about what's happening

[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago
[–] TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

So basically another illegal act that can be thrown at him only to be ignored: manipulating evidence. Although to be fair, hard to manipulate what is already out there, so I don't think it's likely he will.

[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 weeks ago

They...will...do...it...anyway....

Fuck it's so frustrating watching one side pretend the rule of law still means anything.

[–] bappity@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

as if a judge can stop them at this point. haven't they shown that the law doesn't matter at all?

court in America is just political theatre now

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

It’s another crime they’re guilty of. Hopefully a continued buildup of evidence will help some true believers see the light, but more importantly it is yet another thing they can be charged with and is harder to cover up.

The court system will never be immediate or truly dramatic, but as long as the wheels of justice continue to grind forward, however slowly, there is hope

[–] feddylemmy@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Whats the point of your comment? Is the implication they should do nothing? The judicial branch has successfully stopped the executive multiple times. Not sure what you're on about.

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