When there are road works they tend to close the high way or at least some lanes because a hi vis jacket doesn't protect you against speeding lunatics.
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There are also a lot of photos of hi-vis roadworks and emergency vehicles that motorists have crashed into. It's almost like it's not visibility that's the problem…
I recall there being a phenomenon where drivers brains actually filter out hi-vis jackets as "unimportant data" because we see them so much.
Yeah, the "urban camouflage" theory. Or they expect us to be slow or static like a roadworker or emergency worker and so botch the overtake.
I think the issue was the car its self was not visible enough to the emergency vehicles. Car drivers should be wearing reflective gear and helmets, and the car should be fully reflective.
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Y'all are missing the key point, if the headline and my understanding are to be believed. They're proposing making it a CRIMINAL offense, not a fine you misdemeanor, but a can put you in jail criminal offense (felony for you yanks), that's way over the top.
Why does the rider need to be visible? Surely if the bike is visible that is enough. Part of why my bike has bright lights on it. You can't see me? Sure, but you can see the bike, avoid that and everything is fine.
But what if the rider gets off the bike? Then he could suddenly become invisible!
A lot of people park their cars on the "bicycle boulevard" that I live on, in order to visit businesses on the street a block over. Then they get out wearing all black and cross the street, and they're very-nearly invisible. I think we should have a law that drivers must wear hi-viz at all times, in case they need to get out of their cars.
(And helmets. Drivers should wear helmets. Head injuries from car crashes are still a serious problem.)
Then you just become a pedestrian, it is illegal to run them over too.
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This is fucked and no way something like this should pass.
Also if a cyclist is expected to wear a helmet and high reflection vest then car drivers should be required to do the same, windows should also be completely down with no music playing what so ever. If you go a cellphone or you are eating a burger or snack bar straight to jail for attempted manslaughter.
Im thinking the equivalent would be cars have hi visibility paint. I hate cars with matt colors matching the road. Can't even seen them without the lights on.
Just because they are being pedantic with their proposed regulations, I suggested this up thread.
Their cars and lorries also need high-vis striping, no less than 7 stripes front to back, and 3 wrapped around the body. The stripes must also be painted into the base coat, they may not be part of a wrap.
Their cars and lorries also need high-vis striping, no less than 7 stripes front to back, and 3 wrapped around the body. The stripes must also be painted into the base coat, they may not be part of a wrap.
Require cars to have a governor that limits speed, either geofenced to anywhere cyclists/ pedestrians are common, or high density, (like within a town) or make them have self driving car like 'AI' cameras, that limit speed when peds/ cyclists are within sight, and either alarm/ brake whenever one comes within 10'.
If they're going to do that, they should also go back to requiring motor cars to be preceded by an attendant on foot, waving a red flag.
You know, for safety.
This one actually makes sense as cars and automobiles are technically heavy machinery. Thus so, they should technically at all times be operated with a spotter outside of the vehicle at all times.
Is this the same Ireland where a TD couldn't get into Dublin to propose a congestion-mitigation policy to the Dáil Éireann because he was stuck in a traffic jam for THREE AND A HALF HOURS? But, yeah, go ahead, discourage bicycling with punitive laws. What could go wrong?
They probably need to expand that tram system in Dublin. it was great for those few routes from what i remember , maybe frequency could have been improved a bit. It'd seem like a no-brainer to add another 2 or 3 lines. I visited about 15 years ago so hopefully it has improved, but sounds like maybe not.
I dunno how Dublin compares to , say, Manchester, but the Manc system has grown a lot in the last few decades and makes the town centre so much nicer and easier to get around, by all other modes too especially walking.
I'm sure with all those corporate HQs that Dublin should be a lot richer than Manchester . . . oh hang on, those corpos pay fuckall taxes don't they.
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As an Australian who has lived with compulsory helmets for decades I think wearing a helmet and high vis is probably bare minimum if you have to share with cars and not nearly enough if you have to use door lanes and deal with Ford Rangers and garbage trucks.
Unfortunately once you go down this route cycling partipation drops and its a net fail for public health.
Sedate cycling on seperated pathways and through parks gets lumped in with high risk road cycling. It ends up being completely inappropriate for the type of cycling most people would like to do (not high risk vehicular cycling).
Why bother building expensive dedicated safe infrastructure when people have a magical inch of styrofoam on their noggins and a yellow shirt to protect them from 2 tonnes of murder machine.
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Maybe distracted driving should be made criminal offense first, and controls on drivers increased.
2 days ago a car driver in front of me was watching a skiing contest on his phone on the dashboard, last year I followed one who was playing candy crush.
I'm glad my daily commute is 80% on bike paths separated from car traffic, those 20% are why my kids can't go to school with their bikes and my wife does not take her bike.
The thing is that the bicycle is the only means of transport for medium distances which statistically makes your life longer, not shorter.
The reasons are the health effects of cycling, compared to the health effects of sitting in a car and not doing daily excercise. The number one cause of death is cardiovascular diseases, which are also caused by lack if excercise. These risks are far larger than the risk of accidents.
If road safety is so important, it should also be mandatory for passengers and drivers to wear helmets.
Their cars and lorries also need high-vis striping, no less than 7 stripes front to back, and 3 wrapped around the body. The stripes must also be painted into the base coat, they may not be part of a wrap.
They should create a law that makes it legal for civilians to assassinate the drivers of vehicles who veer into bike lanes.
Ninja rocks, in minecraft
Aka if a driver hits you and you aren't in uniform you get injury and a fine and some complementary salt to pour in any open wounds.
This is how I go pickup milk in the mornings. /s
We used to wear helmets whenever we rode after witnessing a fatality on the Great Victorian Bike Ride when we were teenagers.
Dude had his helmet hanging on his handlebars, came off at speed and skidded on his head. When the Ambos came (they weren’t called Paramedics back then), he was still alive, but his brain was exposed.
We never wore our high-vis vests though, they were loose and would droop off our shoulders and we would get tangled.
There was also the story about the dad so was fooling around with his kids bike without a helmet in the back yard; fell over, cracked his head and died instantly; (plausible, but unproven).
I want good headlights (actually already have that, but everyone should too IMO) and blinkers.
tbf people should be wearing all of those things.... should never trust anyone behind a wheel.
Feels like blaming the victim to me.
Why don’t drivers put their phones down? They’re the one running bicyclists over, not the other way around.
It doesn't take a moron texting and driving to run into a cyclist.... morons can be distracted or stupid for any reason. As I said, can't trust anyone behind a wheel. Just saying it how it is.
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You do be wearing your full body armor then yes? Because where is the line?
Don't answer me because it's rhetorical.
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