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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/42070722

A masked guy breaks down your door w/o an Article III warrant absent exigent circumstances? Yeah, I'd agree. Trick will be that pressing the murder charge would be federal since a federal agent dies in the line of official work (though illegal), which would give the president grounds to push for death.

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[–] AshMan85@lemmy.world 1 points 52 minutes ago

So does the 4th and 2nd amendment

[–] Klox@lemmy.world 31 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Every American knows what to do when on that jury.

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 6 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Unfortunately 40% would do the wrong thing just for a taste of some boot.

[–] bishoponarope@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

You can't ask those people to starve, they can't eat anything else but boot, clearly.

[–] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 16 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Local laws may vary but defense of others is typically seen as valid too. Imminent threat of nighttime home invasion is probably in a textbook as the obvious example of when a reasonable and capable person may intervene.

Masked armed thugs stacking up on your neighbor's door? Tally ho, motherfucker.

[–] Marshezezz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 3 hours ago

They make it an easy shot for sure

[–] FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Note, the law usually specifies defense of the innocent.

Even minor charges against the person you’re defending could complicate your legal case.

It'd be complicated, sure, but that's a drop in the much larger bucket of a case. What does a reasonable person know or believe at the moment of the perceived danger though? Won't rule it out but can't see a courtroom conclusion stating that I should have hopped on my computer to do a background check first. I do have evidence of a murderous gang of terrorists targeting people (citizen or otherwise) on American soil, however, and they like to dress up in an imitation of police gear.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 20 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Arizona with a W rn, look at that

But is it Arizonaw or Warizona?

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 8 points 2 hours ago (3 children)

Not only will they shoot back, more of them will show up quickly. This would not end in court for you, methinks.

[–] Ioughttamow@fedia.io 1 points 44 minutes ago

Seems like they’d kill you anyways

[–] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 11 points 2 hours ago

Do the right thing and not have to go to court? But what's the downside?

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago

'you won't win, so why even bother trying'